Re: [AlpacaTalk] CA

Laurel,

Actually, yes this farm did have 2 other dams, non-related, I believe, who also had CA crias during the time period that the one dam threw 3 CA crias. As far as other problems, I can't say. I do believe they also had quite a lot of resorptions and slipped pregnancies. I have to tell ya, that's what the NIH said in the mouse studies.

Yes, Jim, an alpaca is much larger than a mouse. The studies did say that the levels were not apparently maternally toxic. Tha tmeans the mothers were not sick, but there were fetal deaths, resorptions, skeletal and cardiovascular defects at these levels. I do not claim that this is proof that it can cause the same thing in alpacas, but it is food for thought. Especially when one farm experienced this very thing, when using that product to clean water buckets. Don't you think?

Heather

 

On Jun 25, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Bluebird Hills Farm wrote:

Heather,
I find it hard to believe that the only defect Formula 409 would cause is choanal atresia. Are there other alpacas drinking out of the same bucket? Have they all had CA crias? I think what is seen here is a dam that throws CA and that in her case it is a dominant defect. There have been llamas that have done similarly. Terrible bad and sad luck for the owners.

The best that could be done with this situation is necropsies of the cria although it is probably too late. Blood samples of all sires and the dam sent to Andy Merriwether. 

Quick search  (very quick) did not show any birth defects secondary to Formula 409, but it was very quick.

Laurel


The Shouvlins 
Bluebird Hills Farm 
Springfield, Ohio 
937-206-3936 
www.bluebirdhills.com 
bluebirdhills@voyager.net

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