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Thursday, June 25, 2009

Re: [AlpacaTalk] not BEW



It quite possibly might be an alignment issue due to an ear tick when he was younger.  If the animal was entered with a vet certification stating so this would explain why the judge placed the animal. Research it a bit more by talking to the owner. I've seen the nerve damage ear ticks can cause to the face and it does indeed look like wry face. It also can cause ear damage that looks like that cartilage deformity that is highly heritable as well. 
 
Deborah Robinson
Golden CO
303 503-4117
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: 6/25/2009 9:30:08 AM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] not BEW

Laurel,

This alpaca does have a lot of fleece on his cheeks, so that hides the jawline somewhat. But it's very noticeable, probably 15� off, maybe 20. At first glance, you can clearly see the muzzle is not correct. 

So, since a wry mouth is ignored by senior judges at halter shows, how can we expect breeders to pull said animal from their programs? 

Surely the judges have a responsibility not to give awards to animals with obvious defects. If they give 1st place ribbons at level 5 shows to animals with those visible defects, how can anyone expect breeders to cull animals with suspected defects they can't see, in that animal?


Heather



On Jun 25, 2009, at 5:18 AM, Bluebird Hills Farm wrote:



Hi Heather,

I don't know how he could place if he has a wry mouth. When being shown, he must have everything lined up correctly, or I can assure you, the judges I have worked with both as a steward, and as an apprentice, would never place this male. Is it possible that he just carries it to the side when he is relaxed?

If the teeth meet the gum in front correctly, and if the face does not show any signs of  being wry, with a crooked jaw, or teeth that scoot to one side or the other when the bite is shown, then there is no way for the judge to dock them for a defect they can't visualize.

As you know, they have about half a minute to assess the alpaca stem to stern, so if it isn't obvious when examining the alpaca's head and bite, then it may get overlooked, if it is mild or not obvious at all..

If it is obvious, then there is an issue and one would need to bring attention to the problem in whatever way the complaintant feels comfortable.

Laurel

The Shouvlins 
Bluebird Hills Farm 
Springfield, Ohio 
937-206-3936 
www..bluebirdhills.com 
bluebirdhills@voyager.net

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