alpacas: Re: [AlpacaTalk] not BEW

Hi Heather,

I don't know how he could place if he has a wry mouth. When being shown, he must have everything lined up correctly, or I can assure you, the judges I have worked with both as a steward, and as an apprentice, would never place this male. Is it possible that he just carries it to the side when he is relaxed?

If the teeth meet the gum in front correctly, and if the face does not show any signs of being wry, with a crooked jaw, or teeth that scoot to one side or the other when the bite is shown, then there is no way for the judge to dock them for a defect they can't visualize.

As you know, they have about half a minute to assess the alpaca stem to stern, so if it isn't obvious when examining the alpaca's head and bite, then it may get overlooked, if it is mild or not obvious at all.

If it is obvious, then there is an issue and one would need to bring attention to the problem in whatever way the complaintant feels comfortable.

Laurel

The Shouvlins
Bluebird Hills Farm
Springfield, Ohio
937-206-3936
www.bluebirdhills.com
bluebirdhills@voyager.net

> Ok, how about this example? I know of a yearling male, nearly two
> years old.
From a very famous sire. Has a pretty noticable wry mouth.
> Has placed very well at halter shows, including 2 blue ribbons at
> level 5 shows under big name "influential" judges. Now, why is this
> animal placing at all? Sure, his teeth line up properly to his dental
> pad, but aren't the judges supposed to be looking at more than that?
>
> Of course, if the judges reward animals with serious defects such as
> this, why not breed him? Surely he wouldn't have done so well at
> shows if there was something wrong with him, right?
>
> Heather
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2009, at 1:41 AM, Bluebird Hills Farm wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> A thought on how one might protect themselves...
>>
>> I mentioned that in our stud service contract we ask the owner of
>> the dam to state that the dam is not related to, nor has any
>> progeny with defects.
>>
>

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