Re: [AlpacaTalk] BEW

Turns out, this female has had only 3 crias. All 3 had CA. Is it possible that this breeder was so unlucky to choose 3 different sires that carry the CA gene? I find that to be pretty poor odds. In this case, it might actually be environmental causes. 

This breeder is the one who I heard the suspected link between CA and Formula 409 from. He himself admitted to using that product to clean his water buckets. And he was horrified to think that he may have caused this, himself. In answer to the person who ranted about someone using this product in their farm management, well, this is apparently safe for use in human kitchens, why would someone think it would not be safe for use in animal management? 

So I think we need to wait for studies to be completed before we start culling every animal that had CA in its lineage. Otherwise, I think we may be culling every alpaca in the US. 

Heather

On Jun 25, 2009, at 5:07 AM, Bluebird Hills Farm wrote:

Heather, you wrote, "We later find out that 
"this is the 3rd CA cria from this dam. So now what?"

You were shocked Heather, I am sure you were TICKED OFF in a big way. I would be, in fact I would be strongly considering a threat of legal action so that these folks never would buy a breeding for that female again. Ultimately, I wouldn't sue or involve attorneys, but I sure would try to give them a reason not to breed her, again.

That is a very sad situation, for a sire's reputation is now terribly tarnished. If it were I, I think I would have a very tough time using him, for if somewhere down the line one of his direct progeny, or one of his descendants threw a CA cria, it would all come crashing down and I would be one of the "no good rotten farms" that perpetuated the problem.

This is an absolutely terrible situation. A horrible loss for that farm that owns the stud, but you can never go wrong taking the highest road possible.

As for the contract disclosures, you are absolutely right that congenital does not mean genetic, but at least the issue is on the table for discussion so that everyone makes an informed decision about the breeding to take place.

So sorry about that stud....a truly lousy situation.

Laurel

The Shouvlins 
Bluebird Hills Farm 
Springfield, Ohio 
937-206-3936 
www.bluebirdhills.com 
bluebirdhills@voyager.net

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