[AlpacaTalk] RE: Emergency
<<Janice, I would say the red ants are a very good possibility. I also
read your previous email (before this last incident) and I noticed you
said she rubbed her face on the fence alot (you were wondering if she
could have gotten her original injury from a splinter). If she rubs her
face on the fence, she probably rubs it on the ground also. My thoughts
were 1) she has an allergy so her face itches.also causing a swollen
face and the halter enhanced the situation or 2) she rubbed her face in
the middle of an ant hill or a spider web. Either way, I suggest you
call the University ph # that was given to you previously and talk to
someone there or call Kansas State Univ - Dr Anderson and his group are
very happy to answer questions on alpacas. They have a herd right there
at KState and are doing wonderful research (the more case info they get,
the better). Sorry I don't have their # with me. I can get it to you
later. Even though the incident
has passed, you need to be ready in case it happens again. If there is
one thing I have learned from having alpacas, it is that everything
happens in the middle of the night and you never have the right medicine
in your cabinet. I am slowly getting what I need...that reminds me...I
need to get some Benadryl. Let us know what you find out. Robin
>>
I am pretty convinced it was the red ants after seeing the indention in
the ant hill. And I have seen her rubbing her face on the ground, as
well as the fences. I poured gasoline in the ant hill yesterday and
they are all gone! I have long been told by the old timers around here
to do with my red ant hills, but I just never took it seriously. It works.
She does seem to have something on her face. She has had cruddy ears
for awhile, but as she is not very easy to work with (but has been fine
thru this ordeal, tho lately she is getting quite grumpy about it all
and starting to make noises like I am going to spit if you don't back
off!) and I have been so preoccupied with so many other things I have
noted but not addressed. Her ears (the outer skin, not inner) were
tough, bumpy, no hair. I started spraying them with ...... you guessed
it......goldenseal when I started having to treat her eye and had her up
anyway. A fairly dilute spray, tho nowhere near as dilute as the
goldenseal eyewash solution I made. The ears started clearing up almost
immediately and I could see fresh pink skin where the lumpy bumps were
within just a few days. After about 10 days of spraying them several
times a day, she has new ears! Soft, bumps gone,hair growing back. I
am still spraying them 2x a day since I have to mess with her anyway. I
tried it on her face this morning, but that didn't work too well! I
will have to figure out another way to get it on her face.
I am compiling my emergency "kit" thanks to all of the great info I have
rec'd here. If anyone has the # to Dr Anderson's dept at Kansas State I
would be most appreciative to add to my list. I have called Auburn/Dr
Pugh, as well as Dr Evans, years ago when I had what I suspected was a
mworm situation and the vet was treating the limping as a sprain or mild
injury with Banamine. They were wonderful and told me exactly what to
have my vet do, which I did and we were able to save my boy, tho he did
have flare ups with limping from time to time after that. I don't
remember how I got their # or what I did with it after that. If anyone
happens to have that # and dept handy I would appreciate it as well.
When I called before it was during regular hours and as I recall went
thru the main Univ switchboard. Don't know if that would be an option
in the middle of the night. So perhaps someone has the direct # you can
share to either or both.
Also, I was looking up in Norm Evans book about benedryl (in my state of
panic the other night I didn't even think to look at his book - Duh)and
see he gives dosage for IV and IM, but not for oral administration.
From what you all have shared with me here, apparently it is effective
orally? What would be a dosage for an app 125# animal?
I was going to ask the vet (who has not called to even inquire how we
resolved the emergency) to give me some epinephrine to have on hand
since we see that this animal has a rather severe allergic reaction to
something, it is likely to happen again. I was terrified her windpipe
was going to swell up and suffocate her right before my eyes. DO NOT
want to go thru that again. Do you think Epinephrine would be overkill?
If it is appearing her windpipe is swelling and she wouldn't be able
to swallow.....
either Benedryl or epinephrine and I see the vet is not going to say
which. But perhaps if I ask her for what I want she will provide.
And yes, the emergencies always seem to happen in the middle of the
night or on a holiday week-end. Always been the same with my dogs as
well. I am just ever so thankful it happened *before* her midnight
treatment; if it happened after I saw her for the last time that night I
feel sure that halter would have killed her. It is now off and I am
managing her using Marty McGee's long rope with the ring technique for
making a quick halter. Can't lead her with that as she won't walk, but
it is enough to hold her still for the eyedrops. I will NEVER leave a
halter on overnight again. She is quite easy to halter if I need to
once I have her with the long rope.
Janice, off to buy some benedryl as well for next time!
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