Re: [AlpacaTalk] Libby's confession about alpacasite and politics site ownership
God I'm such a jerk!
On Dec 30, 2007, at 8:44 PM, libby@alpacafarm.com wrote:
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>
>
>
> Okay, that's it. I give up. I confess. I bought both sites for five
> million dollars because I wanted to control the world...but I didn't
> buy it
> from Tim and Cindy! I bought it from the Romaniks!! Yes, it time to
> spill
> all the beans. The Romaniks are not angry with me because I had to
> repossess many animals they didn't pay for on two occasions...it's
> because
> I never paid them for alpacasite and the politics site. They are
> spreading
> lies about Tim and Cindy because well, they started the sites when
> Floyd
> and Ana weren't looking and Ana and Floyd had to buy it from Tim and
> Cindy
> for, you guessed it, ten million dollars!!! The lawsuits by the
> Romaniks
> against us and past and present Board members and against AOBA wasn't
> about
> years of Ana being unhappy with Board after Board after Board after
> Board
> and harrassing and threatening and lying about good people. It's
> because
> AOBA wouldn't buy the sites from her. After all, Ana does know best
> and
> AOBA should have known better than to argue with her and not do
> exactly
> what they were told. However, I kept Alpacasite and the politics site
> wihout paying for them (which is why Ana hates us so much) and sold
> them to
> John Pinkowski. I then convinced (you'll like this one...) Eric to
> threaten John so that John would sell it back to me at 50% of what I
> sold
> it to him for. Since certificates of ownership for groups can only
> transfer during full moons and when all parties involved in the
> transaction
> are facing north while standing on their left foot, I had lots of
> extra
> time to do all this. At least 24 hours! So....after I bought both
> sites
> back from John Pinkowski, I sold them to Heather, who then changed
> her name
> to Rick Horn. Yep, you guessed it!! Heather is really Rick Horn. She
> really masquerades as Rick and as a side business, PAYS Ana to run
> around
> lying about people to keep everyone upset. But that's not all. This
> gives
> Heather the chance to complain bitterly about alpacasite and its
> oppression
> while all the time it's Heather doing the oppressing! AND, it gives
> Heather the chance to say no one is answering questions when she
> knows full
> well that Amy is answering them. But folks, that's just a cover!!
> There
> IS no Rick Horn. It's actually Heather fulfilling her childhood
> fantasy to
> own alpacasite and suppress the masses and control the world! In fact,
> Heather has now owned alpacasite since alpacas came into this country
> in
> 1951. Yes, the bitter thruth is that Heather and Ana were importers
> and
> refused to sell alpacas to others until the late 1980's. They had gone
> into business selling alpaca dung and well, the rest is history. So, I
> give up. You figured it out! Ana and Heather and I can't hide any
> longer.
> I just can't live with this pressure. I confess! After all, Heather is
> willing to believe anything about me so it's time I just gave it up
> and
> confessed. Bet she didn't figure I'd take her down as well! Ha!
>
> Yes, I also own the Moon. Yep, it's me! I've owned it since April of
> 2004
> and only told my good buddies the Romaniks. I'm sure they will tell
> you
> all this and phrase in such a way that it sounds like a horrible
> thing and
> will make everyone angry with me. After all, Ana wouldn't lie so she
> must
> know exactly how it came about and is 100% correct!! So, I also
> confess....I'm the one with condos on the moon. I have marshland in
> the
> northern section of the madaharion region, right near the coveted
> quarlutian. Anyone care to buy a chunk?
>
> Libby
>
> Libby Forstner
> Magical Farms
>
>
>
> "Floyd Romanik"
> <floyd@indiansumm
> eralpacas.com> To
> Sent by: <AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com>
> AlpacaTalk@yahoog cc
> roups.com
> Subject
> FW: [AlpacaTalk] Re: AOBA and
> 12/30/2007 05:31 unsubscribing
> PM
>
>
> Please respond to
> AlpacaTalk@yahoog
> roups.com
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>
>
> Heather,
>
> Here's my understanding of Alpacasite ownership. Tim and Cindy Lavan
> started Alpacasite back in the mid 90's. They sold the site to Libby
> and
> Jerry Forstner. Libby and Jerry then got John Pinkowski to act as
> moderator
> of Alapcasite while they still owned it. When John quite because of
> threats
> of lawsuits between Eric Hoffman and Ken Madl over what was being
> posted;
> Libby and Jerry got Rick Horn to agree to be Moderator. According to
> Libby
> and Jerry as of April 2004 they were still the owners of both
> Alpacasite
> and
> Alpacapolitics. I don't know if they still own it today but they did
> in
> 2004. I was told the above by Libby and Jerry themselves.
>
> I and others have tried to find out exactly who does own the sites
> these
> days to no avail. Yahoo groups won't say a word. Their lips are
> sealed…
>
> I think your perspectives as a moderator are exactly what's needed in
> the
> industry… Keep up the great work!
>
> All the best,
>
> Ana
>
> Floyd and Ana Romanik
> Indian Summer Alpacas
> Chepachet, Rhode Island
>
> Phone: (401) 568-7759
>
> _____
>
> From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com]
> On
> Behalf Of Heather Zeleny
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 3:21 PM
> To: alpacatalk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: AOBA and unsubscribing
>
> I have said and will always say that we have the right and
> responsibility to ask questions, and to question what we disagree
> with.
> We have the right to voice dissatisfaction, we have a right to say so
> when something pisses us off, we have a right to say so when something
> looks rotten. I say we have the responsibility to speak out!
>
> I think the more this issue is talked out, the more we'll understand
> it. I don't care to have to join Rick Horn's groups. I don't think
> Rick
> Horn needs to control everyone.
>
> I started this group when John Pinkowski shut down AlpacaSite, then
> Rick weaseled his way into ownership of that group, after having been
> an alpaca owner for maybe a year. Now Rick sees fit to tell people
> what
> to say and what to think on AlpacaSite. I will not be such a
> moderator.
> I think we have the right to say what we think and feel. If it upsets
> some people, well, that's the price we pay for freedom of speech.
>
> Everyone doesn't have to agree with my thoughts or feelings, I don't
> have to keep silent when I think something isn't right.
>
> Yes, this group is for helping our fellow breeders with alpaca
> husbandry issues, but it is also for the discussion of everything else
> that concerns our alpaca industry. And I won't change that.
>
> Best regards,
> Heather
>
> Heather Zeleny
> West Wind Alpacas
> Eugene, OR
>
> Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
> Home of Avatar's West Wind Scirocco, El Bello's Padré, Pluro grandson
> Sienna Illusion, and true black full Bolivian Cosby of Chelsea Farms!
> http://www.westwind <http://www.westwindalpacas.com/> alpacas.com/
> http://www.alpacana <http://www.alpacanation.com/westwind.asp>
> tion.com/westwind.asp
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> On Dec 30, 2007, at 11:50 AM, Wyatt Black wrote:
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> >
> > I disagree with you Heather, I see your posts as being inflammatory,
> > but we
> > all are different, that's what makes us all individuals! :)
> >
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