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Sunday, December 30, 2007

[AlpacaTalk] Re: AOBA and unsubscribing

Sorry! I put the alpacatalk address in the window, but there are two of
them- oops!
I just joined this group for another site to talk alpacas, there is the
political site for everything else, now this is being talked about on three
different sites...

I disagree with you Heather, I see your posts as being inflammatory, but we
all are different, that's what makes us all individuals! :)
Take care,
Rachelle

Black Magic Alpaca Ranch
Honesty, Integrity, Quality
Wyatt & Rachelle Black
P.O. Box 457
6500 Digier Road
Lebec, CA
93243
(661-248-6568)
wyattblack@earthlink.net
http://pasturemusings.blogspot.com


> [Original Message]
> From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com>
> To: <wyattblack@earthlink.net>
> Date: 12/30/2007 8:34:57 AM
> Subject: Re: AOBA and unsubscribing
>
> Hi Rachel,
> You sent this email to me privately.
>
> I don't see any rancor. I see people, including me, asking questions
> about the way OUR organisation is run and what in the world is going
> on. I see people speaking down to me, and making unfounded accusations
> about my motives and intent in asking these questions. I see myself
> being accused of treating others with derision, when this has not been
> the case.
>
> This discussion group is about asking questions and yes, I demand
> answers from anyone who knows what's really going on at AOBA! Please
> take time to read the description of the group. I encourage anyone to
> talk about anything in regards to breeding alpacas. Rick Horn thinks he
> is fit to decide what people ought to talk about, I think people can
> decide for themselves what s important to talk about.
>
> If people are angry, they have a right to express it.
>
> AOBA is suddenly in trouble with the IRS and is being taxed on income.
> AOBA employs lawyers and accountants, so if they were not up to
> something before, to get themselves into this mess, the IRS would have
> been happy and all would be well. Something smells at AOBA. A
> for-profit subsidiary? Is that really the right answer? And as John
> Merrell asked, is it even legal for a non-profit to own a for-profit?
>
> If you wish to unsubscribe, you can do so by visiting the Yahoo group
> on the web or by following the link at the very bottom of the emails
> sent by the group. Or you may change settings to receive no emails from
> the group.
>
> We can agree to disagree, an everyone has a right to their opinion, and
> we definitely have a right to know what the AOBA board is up to!
>
> Best wishes,
> Heather
>
> On Dec 30, 2007, at 7:33 AM, Wyatt Black wrote:
>
> > Please unsubscribe me from this site.� I don't need to belong to a
> > site where there is such vitriol and unjustified rancor.
> > �
> > Those who serve in the AOBA organization and volunteer time, money, or
> > lost hair on my account- I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
> > Being a volunteer myself year round, I have some idea of the time and
> > effort it takes to run a large organization smoothly.
> > Personally, I think every alpaca breeder should be required to
> > volunteer a minimum of 30 days out of the year for one of the many
> > organizations serving us.� (I recommend ARF :))� But I am sure AOBA
> > could always use more�support from it's members.
> > �
> > Libby- I thank you for doing what we as small breeders cannot- donate
> > $ and animals to help bring in income and keep costs down.�
> > �
> > If I have questions, I know who to call/contact/listen to- thanks
> > Amy!� All my questions have been answered with grace and dignity.
> > �
> > Slainte~
> > Rachelle
> > Black Magic Alpaca Ranch
> > Honesty, Integrity, Quality
> > Wyatt & Rachelle Black
> > P.O. Box 457
> > 6500 Digier Road
> > Lebec, CA
> > 93243
> > (661-248-6568)
> > wyattblack@earthlink.net
> > http://pasturemusings.blogspot.com


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