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Sunday, December 30, 2007

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: AOBA Shennanigans/subsidiary

No one has treated anyone who "gives" with contempt. That is one major
difference in this entire thread.

Because some are dissatisfied with the membership pricing structure,
and voice that dissatisfaction, you say we are somehow treating those
who are benefiting from this scheme with contempt. Not so. We're
questioning what in the world our AOBA board is up to, and we're
displeased with some things, but we're not the ones treating anyone
with contempt.

This particular thread is about what funny business AOBA is up to and
how they can possibly own and for-profit company, and why the small
breeders are nickel and dimed so harshly!

John is absolutely correct, the $1500 and $5000 membership levels are
much more than "donations." Rather than simply receiving recognition
and a plaque, those with the most money are given quarterly AOBA
membership roster in and Excel file, from which they can copy the email
addresses and send out scores of emails with sales pitches. The rest of
us can pay AOBA to send emails for us at $100 a pop (or is it $200?).
Yes, those "benefactors" do indeed receive consideration for their
"donation." When I donate to causes, the gift is usually a totebag or a
mug. No, I don't have the discretionary income to give $1500 or $5000,
so maybe when you donate that much, your thank-you gift is more. But to
give those who join at that level such a huge advantage over those who
join at the Farm memberhsip level is not fair and I doubt if the
membership would have approved such a thing if it were put to US for a
vote.

Heather

On Dec 30, 2007, at 6:42 AM, libby@alpacafarm.com wrote:

>
>
> John,
>
> I don't disagree with much of what you say. But when people who are
> barely
> able to donate, do donate as with AOBA, treating them with contempt
> is not
> the answer either. That is something you and I don't agree upon and I
> do
> speak up to defend them. Most people who give are not rich. Most give
> because it hurts. Sometimes acknowledgement is the only thing AOBA
> gives
> for people who give. It is something and it is not bad to acknowledge
> the
> good deeds of others. Just because someone with 1,000 animals gives,
> doesn't mean they didn't give and should be treated with contempt. It
> was
> an example. That's all. Most people do give until it hurts. Most don't
> ask for a thing. Some people are never happy with anyone or anything.
> Some people are always happy and giving. Diffences in people, I guess.
>
> Libby
>
> Libby Forstner
> Magical Farms

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