Re: [AlpacaTalk] AOBA Shennanigans/subsidiary
Ok Libby, I think you have me confused with someone else. I never said
a word about special free privileges. I never said the word token. I
don't understand this passage "If you weren't a benefactor and didn't
pay the 5,000, the same benefits benefactors get would cost you less."
I'm not beating up anyone. And as I said in a previous post, I do know
very well that shows are not cheap and I know what it does cost to run
even a small show.
You know, I mainly said, give us little guys back our stupid Alpacas
Magazine subscriptions.
I'm pleased for you that you have so much money that you can donate
animals to AOBA, and I wouldn't give a rat's ass about the statue,
either, if I had that kind of money. But you're surely getting
something in return for it, aren't you? Like a nice tax write-off for
your own business? To many of us, $25000 is a good portion of our total
yearly gross income. So I'm sorry if I take your indignation with a
grain of salt. Many of us don't see $5000, gross, per month, so we
don't have that kind of money to be such generous benefactors to AOBA.
Many of us are lucky if we see $1500 net per paycheck.
So please try to keep things in perspective when you vent. We do not
walk the same paths and definitely do not wear the same shoes. And yes,
I do wish the playing field were a bit more level between those with
deep pockets and those of us with empty pockets.
Best,
Heather
On Dec 29, 2007, at 7:05 PM, libby@alpacafarm.
>
>
> Hello Heather,
>
> I hear your anger at people who give to AOBA and whom you think
> somehow
> benefit more.
>
> Benefactors pay for what they get and way above that. They don't get
> "special free priviliges..
> them,
> I think, as elite who get more than the rest. The point is they pay
> for it
> and much more without getting more. If you weren't a benefactor and
> didn't
> pay the 5,000, the same benefits benefactors get would cost you less.
> There is NO"big deal" in being a benefactor financially and shouldn't
> they
> get some "token" for their $5,000?. It is something good that people
> are
> willing to do for the association.
> alpaca to
> AOBA. Yes, for $25,000, we get our name mentioned in the catalog and
> now we
> get a statue. I promise you that buying an ad in the magazine and
> buying
> that statue and the few other perks comes nowhere near the donated
> $25,000
> (for example). People do it to raise money for AOBA's marketing and to
> help out the general membership who would not otherwise be able to
> afford
> the FRG or AOBA's marketing. Without benefactors and people donating
> females and sponsoring and volunteering, the cost of AOBA's marketing
> would
> be MUCH, MUCH, MUCH higher for each and every person. Please don't
> beat up
> those who donate in this way. You have no idea how much money it
> brings to
> AOBA and to all the members, including you. Good deeds should be
> thanked...not trashed by accusations of "elite" etc.
>
> Not sure I made this as clear as I should but if you understood how
> much
> marketing for the membership truly costs to keep it going, you'd not
> begrudge these donors the little they do get.
>
> Thanks for listening.
>
> Sorry I am coming across so strong but donations and sponsorships are
> needed desperately by ALL shows and AOBA and if people stop donating
> and
> sponsoring, AOBA, shows and the things supported by such donations
> will
> nearly completely drop off or become so expensive that truly only the
> elite
> could do it. Talk to anyone who runs a show how critical sponsorships
> are.
> Ask AOBA's marketing committee how much donated items, donated
> animals and
> sponsorships mean to AOBA and its members.
>
> Clear as mud? Hope this helps explain what I'm trying to say.
>
> Take care,
>
> Libby
>
> Libby Forstner
> Magical Farms
>
> Heather Zeleny
> <alpacatalk@
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> 12/29/2007 09:50 Shennanigans/
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>
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>
>
>
> Hi Libby,
> I think if you look at my post from 4:37pm, you'll see that I did
> speak
> to the $1500 and $5000 benefactor levels. So yes, I do know that is
> not
> free.
>
> Your point was what?
>
> Heather
>
> On Dec 29, 2007, at 6:00 PM, libby@alpacafarm.
>
> >
> >
> > Hello Heather,
> >
> > Benefactors pay $5,000. That's free?
> >
> > Libby
>
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