Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Female fiber/pet animals wanted

Just wanted to say I was shocked by this response to the kind and sensitive
replies to this poster. I went back and reread the replies and just don't
understand. Flossie

Flossie and Joe Carmichael
GentleGrangeAlpacas
Jamison,Pa.

>From: Raritan Way Farm <llama20042004@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
>To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Female fiber/pet animals wanted
>Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:06:30 -0800 (PST)
>
>First of all this will be our last post to this site. Now I never said I
>wanted somebody to give me anything for FREE I dont know were you got that
>idea And I was under the belief that here in the USA that when you bought
>and paid for something it was yours to do with as you wish. Thanks for your
>time I'm intitled to my opinion as you are yours.
>
>Heather Zeleny - West Wind Alpacas <westwindalpacas@comcast.net> wrote:
>Well said!
>
>Heather
>
>--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Elwin Bagley" <Gapacaman@t...> wrote:
> >
> > Robert and Tina; I wish to join the other careing members of this
> > group in apologizing for appearing to be hostile.
> >
> > I say again, You know that you are caring and honest, You know that
> > you will treat all you animals well has you have proved in the past.
> > But, you are not in control of the future. You cannot control what
> > will happen to the alpacas that you are buying if something should
> > go wrong.
> > I beleive that your motives are honest, but I must continue to watch
> > over my alpacas that I consider a gift of God.
> > I tried to make a point and apoloize by telling about my lame female
> > alpaca that I cannot give away because she can still be bred, but my
> > vet and I think that she should not be bred anymore.
> > I will try to explain in detail just why I will not, and most
> > responsible alpaca owners will not sell a breeding female to you and
> > beleive your statement that you do not intend to breed her.
> > Suppose I gave you my pet, and I mean gentle pet female who has very
> > good fiber and a lame leg.
> > Then you had financial reverses and had to leave your farm and sell
> > or give away all you animals.
> > Almost any new owner of my lame female could consult with many vets
> > who would say that she is healthy enough for breeding, in fact
> > a vet and alpaca owner has told me that she is healthy enough for
> > breeding.
> > Now the scenario unfolds to find the new owenr of my lame dam in
> > control.
> > They decide to breed her and she has three more prize crias, then
> > they decide to sell her to a start up know nothing farm and she has
> > three more crias.
> > When does the cruelty (IMHO) stop??
> >
> > Now, I think that you should stop feeling hurt and thank all the
> > honest careing people in this group for a lesson learned.
> >
> > Elwin Bagley
> > www.windyhillalpacafarm.com
> >

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