Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Female fiber/pet animals wanted

First of all this will be our last post to this site. Now I never said I wanted somebody to give me anything for FREE I dont know were you got that idea And I was under the belief that here in the USA that when you bought and paid for something it was yours to do with as you wish. Thanks for your time I'm intitled to my opinion as you are yours.

Heather Zeleny - West Wind Alpacas <westwindalpacas@comcast.net> wrote: Well said!

Heather

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Elwin Bagley" <Gapacaman@t...> wrote:
>
> Robert and Tina; I wish to join the other careing members of this
> group in apologizing for appearing to be hostile.
>
> I say again, You know that you are caring and honest, You know that
> you will treat all you animals well has you have proved in the past.
> But, you are not in control of the future. You cannot control what
> will happen to the alpacas that you are buying if something should
> go wrong.
> I beleive that your motives are honest, but I must continue to watch
> over my alpacas that I consider a gift of God.
> I tried to make a point and apoloize by telling about my lame female
> alpaca that I cannot give away because she can still be bred, but my
> vet and I think that she should not be bred anymore.
> I will try to explain in detail just why I will not, and most
> responsible alpaca owners will not sell a breeding female to you and
> beleive your statement that you do not intend to breed her.
> Suppose I gave you my pet, and I mean gentle pet female who has very
> good fiber and a lame leg.
> Then you had financial reverses and had to leave your farm and sell
> or give away all you animals.
> Almost any new owner of my lame female could consult with many vets
> who would say that she is healthy enough for breeding, in fact
> a vet and alpaca owner has told me that she is healthy enough for
> breeding.
> Now the scenario unfolds to find the new owenr of my lame dam in
> control.
> They decide to breed her and she has three more prize crias, then
> they decide to sell her to a start up know nothing farm and she has
> three more crias.
> When does the cruelty (IMHO) stop??
>
> Now, I think that you should stop feeling hurt and thank all the
> honest careing people in this group for a lesson learned.
>
> Elwin Bagley
> www.windyhillalpacafarm.com
>
>
> --- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Raritan Way Farm
> <llama20042004@y...> wrote:
> >
> > My husband and I are honest folks. We are both from farm familes
> and come from families where a handshake and your word was all that
> was needed. So you see we are well aware all the care animals
> require.
> >
> > Recently we had a premature lamb born that was going to need
> more care than we could provide for her. We drove 200 miles down
> and 200 miles back to take her to a lady who raises baby lambs so
> she would have a greater chance of survival. We didn't make a dime
> on her. absolutely nothing. But it didn't matter she needed to be
> cared for. This was on a Sunday night and we both had to be up for
> work early Monday morning. Alot of people would have just let her
> die. So you see my husband and I are caring devoted animal people.
> >
> >
> >
> > Radched@a... wrote:
> > In a message dated 12/18/2005 3:07:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > llama20042004@y... writes:
> > I do not understand your motives for being hostile towards perhaps
> a future
> > client.
> > I do have the money to invest in other "big money" alpacas
> should we choose
> > too.
> > Too bad you will never know if you could have been the person we
> purchased
> > them from.
> > I don't think anyone was trying to be hostile or make you feel
> unwelcome. I
> > have heard in the past that people have persued non-registered (or
> Canadian
> > registered) females with the intent of breeding them and
> registering the crias
> > so they can sell them for the market value. It can't be done with
> ARI - the
> > registry is closed. Canada does have a "breed up" program where
> you can bred an
> > unregistered female with a registered male, and eventually get the
> future
> > offspring to be 15/16th "pure" and then they are registerable with
> their
> > registry. We just want to make sure that is clear, not
> necessarily aimed at you, but
> > at anyone who might try to do it in the future.
> >
> > Heidi Christensen
> > Graham WA
> >
> >
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