[AlpacaTalk] Re: Female fiber/pet animals wanted

Well said!

Heather

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Elwin Bagley" <Gapacaman@t...> wrote:
>
> Robert and Tina; I wish to join the other careing members of this
> group in apologizing for appearing to be hostile.
>
> I say again, You know that you are caring and honest, You know that
> you will treat all you animals well has you have proved in the past.
> But, you are not in control of the future. You cannot control what
> will happen to the alpacas that you are buying if something should
> go wrong.
> I beleive that your motives are honest, but I must continue to watch
> over my alpacas that I consider a gift of God.
> I tried to make a point and apoloize by telling about my lame female
> alpaca that I cannot give away because she can still be bred, but my
> vet and I think that she should not be bred anymore.
> I will try to explain in detail just why I will not, and most
> responsible alpaca owners will not sell a breeding female to you and
> beleive your statement that you do not intend to breed her.
> Suppose I gave you my pet, and I mean gentle pet female who has very
> good fiber and a lame leg.
> Then you had financial reverses and had to leave your farm and sell
> or give away all you animals.
> Almost any new owner of my lame female could consult with many vets
> who would say that she is healthy enough for breeding, in fact
> a vet and alpaca owner has told me that she is healthy enough for
> breeding.
> Now the scenario unfolds to find the new owenr of my lame dam in
> control.
> They decide to breed her and she has three more prize crias, then
> they decide to sell her to a start up know nothing farm and she has
> three more crias.
> When does the cruelty (IMHO) stop??
>
> Now, I think that you should stop feeling hurt and thank all the
> honest careing people in this group for a lesson learned.
>
> Elwin Bagley
> www.windyhillalpacafarm.com
>
>
> --- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Raritan Way Farm
> <llama20042004@y...> wrote:
> >
> > My husband and I are honest folks. We are both from farm familes
> and come from families where a handshake and your word was all that
> was needed. So you see we are well aware all the care animals
> require.
> >
> > Recently we had a premature lamb born that was going to need
> more care than we could provide for her. We drove 200 miles down
> and 200 miles back to take her to a lady who raises baby lambs so
> she would have a greater chance of survival. We didn't make a dime
> on her. absolutely nothing. But it didn't matter she needed to be
> cared for. This was on a Sunday night and we both had to be up for
> work early Monday morning. Alot of people would have just let her
> die. So you see my husband and I are caring devoted animal people.
> >
> >
> >
> > Radched@a... wrote:
> > In a message dated 12/18/2005 3:07:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > llama20042004@y... writes:
> > I do not understand your motives for being hostile towards perhaps
> a future
> > client.
> > I do have the money to invest in other "big money" alpacas
> should we choose
> > too.
> > Too bad you will never know if you could have been the person we
> purchased
> > them from.
> > I don't think anyone was trying to be hostile or make you feel
> unwelcome. I
> > have heard in the past that people have persued non-registered (or
> Canadian
> > registered) females with the intent of breeding them and
> registering the crias
> > so they can sell them for the market value. It can't be done with
> ARI - the
> > registry is closed. Canada does have a "breed up" program where
> you can bred an
> > unregistered female with a registered male, and eventually get the
> future
> > offspring to be 15/16th "pure" and then they are registerable with
> their
> > registry. We just want to make sure that is clear, not
> necessarily aimed at you, but
> > at anyone who might try to do it in the future.
> >
> > Heidi Christensen
> > Graham WA
> >
> >
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> > Raritan Way Farm
> > Robert and Tina Moore
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