Heather, I too was having problems with a female that miscarried several times. Then at a Old Time Farm Event a couple of summers ago I ran into a lady that has been raising alpacas for years and years. I told her of my problem and she said "I bet she is getting too much sugar, keep her off the new grass and sweet feed and feed her good quality hay for the first 4 or 5 months." "Then you can let her gradually graze out in the pasture." It worked and Cheech has a beautiful pure white cria. I am not positive that this is why but Cheech miscarried a single and set of twins before I got the information and did what she said. I have looked and looked and can not find wonderful lady's name, I would llike to give her credit for this but regretfully I can't find it. Hope this helps Jim
--- On Sat, 11/28/09, Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] fertility questions
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 12:16 PM
Hi Allison, This girl arrived at our farm in January 2008. I waited until spring to breed her. This is her breeding schedule. May 31, 2008 bred June 23, 2008 bred June 27, 2008 spit July 2, 2008 spit July 5, 2008, during spit testing another girl, she kushed, so we brought her intended back and they bred. July 12, 2008 spit July 26, 2008 spit August 12, 2008 spit October 9, 2008 aborted twins 96 days gestation
October 26, 2008 bred to a different sire no spit testing. January 15, 2009, aborted twins 82 days gestation
May 30, 2009 bred to my grey boy June 1, 2009 spit June 8, 2009 spit June 11, 2009 spit June 27, 2009 spit July 2, 2009 spit July 31, 2009 bred after resorption some time after July 2, 2009 August 12, 2009 spit October 2, 2009 spit October 8, spit October 19, 2009 aborted twins 80 days gestation
After the first abortion, I chalked it up to the fact that twins often abort in the first trimester. After the second time, I did inform the previous owner, and I did mention it to our vet, who thought those were strange odds but didn't offer any medical explanation. Now, after the third time, I will have a reproductive exam done, but the past month has been very busy so I haven't scheduled it yet.. I hope our local vet will be able to do it rather than having to take her to OSU.
And, I did inform the previous owner of the third time, at which point he asked if I had had an exam done, which I have not, at this point.
However, whether they find anything wrong or not, she has not produced a live cria for me, and I selected her for her bloodlines and color.
Heather
Heather Zeleny White Lotus Alpacas Oregon
Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece On Nov 28, 2009, at 8:55 AM, Allison Moss-Fritch wrote: Given the language of your contract, you plainly have the remedy of requesting a replacement animal. Given that no specific time period has been specified for the determination of what would be a reasonable time to prove either fertility or infertility, then a reasonable time is implied by law. In this case a reasonable time would be long enough to become pregnant and carry a cria to term. Reasonable proof of infertility would be a repro exam coupled with attempts to settle the animal with a proven male who has produced progeny. Since who bears costs has not been specified, you might suggest that they be split…or that you bear costs of breeding and they bear costs of repro exam before replacement clause kicks in. Additionally, although you have express warranties, all of the normal "implied" warranties would exist as well. Plus, you have the express warranties as stated and construed by law of your locality. Your girl has not settled, you have given her time. Have you notified the seller of your predicament? Also, have you given them a chance to have the girl's status reviewed by their vet at their expense? Both of those would be reasonable moves in this situation. As usual, I give the following caveat. I'm a retired attorney who was licensed in California. I'm not practicing law or giving legal advice, just general information which may be of use. You should consult with an attorney licensed in your area if you believe that legal action may be necessary. In these situations, I believe that early communication and dialog is really necessary….and the earlier the better! Best of luck with these frustrating events…hope your girl finally settles. Allison Allison E. Moss-Fritch New Moon Alpacas 350 Cloquallum Rd. Elma, WA 98541 360 861-8584
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