RE: [AlpacaTalk] fertility questions
Hi Heather,
At this point I’d be talking to Dr. Tibary and also I’d be speaking to the seller about splitting costs of a good repro exam. Sounds like her fertility is affected by her twinning….and that would be of great interest to a good Camelid vet…they are studying twinning. In any case it is time for the repro exam and they are pricy. This would be frustrating for me to say the least.
Here is Tibary’s info as I think he’s wanting info on the type of problem you are having…and he probably knows about as much as can be known about this type of reproductive camelid problem so he is the best at assessing this that I can think of.
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He is at Washington State University but goes all over. He can probably recommend someone in your area if he can’t get to her himself.
You have certainly given this girl plenty of opportunity to perform and the bottom line is that for whatever reason, she is not showing herself to be capable of carrying to term. They say that many dams begin with twins, but most drop or absorb one before the pregnancy is far progressed. This girl does not …and that is of interest to camelid repro vets…
Allison
From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 9:17 AM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] fertility questions
Hi Allison,
This girl arrived at our farm in January 2008. I waited until spring to breed her. This is her breeding schedule.
May 31, 2008 bred
June 23, 2008 bred
June 27, 2008 spit
July 2, 2008 spit
July 5, 2008, during spit testing another girl, she kushed, so we brought her intended back and they bred.
July 12, 2008 spit
July 26, 2008 spit
August 12, 2008 spit
October 9, 2008 aborted twins 96 days gestation
October 26, 2008 bred to a different sire
no spit testing.
January 15, 2009, aborted twins 82 days gestation
May 30, 2009 bred to my grey boy
June 1, 2009 spit
June 8, 2009 spit
June 11, 2009 spit
June 27, 2009 spit
July 2, 2009 spit
July 31, 2009 bred after resorption some time after July 2, 2009
August 12, 2009 spit
October 2, 2009 spit
October 8, spit
October 19, 2009 aborted twins 80 days gestation
After the first abortion, I chalked it up to the fact that twins often abort in the first trimester. After the second time, I did inform the previous owner, and I did mention it to our vet, who thought those were strange odds but didn't offer any medical explanation. Now, after the third time, I will have a reproductive exam done, but the past month has been very busy so I haven't scheduled it yet.. I hope our local vet will be able to do it rather than having to take her to OSU.
And, I did inform the previous owner of the third time, at which point he asked if I had had an exam done, which I have not, at this point.
However, whether they find anything wrong or not, she has not produced a live cria for me, and I selected her for her bloodlines and color.
Heather
Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon
Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
On Nov 28, 2009, at 8:55 AM, Allison Moss-Fritch wrote:
Hi Heather,
Given the language of your contract, you plainly have the remedy of requesting a replacement animal. Given that no specific time period has been specified for the determination of what would be a reasonable time to prove either fertility or infertility, then a reasonable time is implied by law. In this case a reasonable time would be long enough to become pregnant and carry a cria to term. Reasonable proof of infertility would be a repro exam coupled with attempts to settle the animal with a proven male who has produced progeny. Since who bears costs has not been specified, you might suggest that they be split…or that you bear costs of breeding and they bear costs of repro exam before replacement clause kicks in.
Additionally, although you have express warranties, all of the normal “implied” warranties would exist as well. Plus, you have the express warranties as stated and construed by law of your locality.
Your girl has not settled, you have given her time. Have you notified the seller of your predicament? Also, have you given them a chance to have the girl’s status reviewed by their vet at their expense? Both of those would be reasonable moves in this situation.
As usual, I give the following caveat. I’m a retired attorney who was licensed in California. I’m not practicing law or giving legal advice, just general information which may be of use. You should consult with an attorney licensed in your area if you believe that legal action may be necessary.
In these situations, I believe that early communication and dialog is really necessary….and the earlier the better!
Best of luck with these frustrating events…hope your girl finally settles.
Allison
Allison E. Moss-Fritch
New Moon Alpacas
350 Cloquallum Rd.
Elma, WA 98541
360 861-8584
posted by Chaddo at 9:43 AM
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