Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Bone Tumor: Update
Hi Dave,
Very interesting article on Dr. Anderson. I had to look up what a polymath is :) Yes, he sounds like the go-to guy.
I was going to mention what happened when I got home, but forgot. I opened the gate to the trailer, Brandie was kushed, I told her we were home and she could get out now. She turned her head to look back, then got up, and came down the ramp. Melody came running over to her, spitting!! Maybe three hours in alpaca time, is a long time!! Thought that was interesting. Melody kept it up for a bit, even seemed to shoulder Brandie. One of the geldings in another field came running up to the fence too.
An internist, to become a doctor? ( I know, dumb question! ) That is one of the occupations, along side being a vet, that I dont think I could do. I would take it very personally to loose a person, and more than likely, more so to loose an animal.
Thanks again!
Jim Guerin
Jimmini Farm
Yelm, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: David Friedman
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Bone Tumor: Update
Hi Jim,
I'm glad to hear that you are cautiously optimistic about your girl. If
there is anyone I'd trust, it would be Dr. David Anderson. The man is
what I'd term a true polymath. A number of years ago, I delivered an
address to the National Conference, extolling the many virtues of Dr.
Anderson. He was, amongst his many other talents, the first orthopedist
to perform the surgery allowing a kangaroo (!) to be fitted with an
artificial limb. I was able to see a video of "Stumpy", as the kangaroo
was called. Amazing! David's mastery of veterinary medicine, when I
researched it for my talk, was astounding. I am an internist, working
in the E.R., so I can appreciate David's talents. Check out this
article on him.
http://media.
Good luck with your Brandie.
Dave
--
David and Esther Friedman
Adirondack Alpacas
"From the Womb to the Loom"
Remsen, NY
www.newyorkalpacas.
315-831-3040
J Guerin wrote:
>
> HI Dave,
>
> Just got back from the vets to have the digital pics taken. Amy, the
> vet rechecked Brandie, really worked her over more so than last time.
> Brandie didnt appear to even flinch!! She took the pics any way, and
> showed me what she had seen in the flat xrays as they call them and
> the same thing in the new xrays. What it looked like to me, not having
> a clue what else to call the ' spots ', looked like oblong spots. The
> digital tech rep was there too, so Brandie was a hands on show and
> tell for them. I took her right into the office.
>
> Amy did get in contact with Dr. Anderson, and from what Amy told him,
> this is what he said to her a few days ago: >Yes. I agree with doing a
> medullary aspirate or biopsy (I prefer biopsy). Given the species, it
> should not be bone tumor, but need to find otu what it is. However,
> let's look at those rads. There is a "lucent" looking area in the
> distal humerus that is an anatomical feature too.> Amy is going to
> send a cd of the digitals to Dr. Anderson. I got a cy of them also.
>
> So that made me feel better, and with Brandie not showing any pain
> today from the manipulating, helped me too!
>
> Amy tried to get in touch with Dr. Pugh, dont know if she succeeded
> yet. He had moved on some four years ago, and is with a pharmaceutical
> company, dont remember which. Turns out that Amy knows Dr. Pugh.
>
> At this point, unless Dr. Anderson finds something, Brandie is on the
> mend!! ( very quietly doing a happy dance! )
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jim Guerin
> Jimini Farm
> Yelm, WA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Friedman
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Bone Tumor: Update
>
>
> Jim,
>
> Have you found out anything further that you might be able to pass along
> to the site?
>
> Dave
>
> --
> David and Esther Friedman
> Adirondack Alpacas
> "From the Womb to the Loom"
> Remsen, NY
> www.newyorkalpacas.
> 315-831-3040
>
> J Guerin wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Dave. I will tell my vet and have them send em after we have
> > xrays taken.
> >
> > Jim Guerin
> > Jimmini Farm
> > Yelm, Wa
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: David Friedman
> > To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
> <mailto:AlpacaTalk%
> > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 7:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Bone Tumor: Update
> >
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > I would contact Dr. David Anderson. He is at Kansas State University.
> > Amongst his many talents, he is a world class camelid expert and a
> > veterinary orthopedist.
> > /David/ E /Anderson/, /DVM/, MS, DACVS Professor and Section Head,
> > Agricultural Practices Phone: 785-532-5700. E-mail:
> > danderso@vet.
> <mailto:danderso%
> >
> > Good luck with your Brandie.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > --
> > David and Esther Friedman
> > Adirondack Alpacas
> > "From the Womb to the Loom"
> > Remsen, NY
> > www.newyorkalpacas.
> > 315-831-3040
> >
> > J Guerin wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Janice,
> > >
> > > No, you are not the only one to loose these critters. It hurts no
> > > matter who looses one. I am trying to keep a positive attitude around
> > > Brandie. Its not easy. I feel so bad when one of the kids are hurt,
> > > whether it is one of the alpacas, mini horses, donkeys, or my dog.
> > >
> > > I plan to take Brandie to the vet next week, then the wait, again,
> for
> > > word from who ever is chosen to read the x rays. It took a month to
> > > find out what I did. I still have to wonder if it is indeed the
> > > humorus bone.
> > >
> > > I am hoping it is not as bad as it seems, or at least is correctable.
> > >
> > > Any ideas as to where would be a very good place to send the x
> rays to
> > > be read by some one that knows what they are looking at, and not have
> > > to compare them to other species? Oregon State was the one that got
> > > the, shall I call them the regular x rays.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Jim Guerin
> > > Jimmini Farm
> > > Yelm, WA
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: houckj@aol.com <mailto:houckj%
> <mailto:houckj%
> > <mailto:houckj%
> > > To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
> <mailto:AlpacaTalk%
> <mailto:AlpacaTalk%
> > <mailto:AlpacaTalk%
> > > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:18 AM
> > > Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Bone Tumor: Update
> > >
> > >
> > > <<<<After loosing her Mom, Aran and a baby girl from my other old
> girl
> > > that died in my arms in 2007, this just about does it. It just keeps
> > > reminding me of the screwing I got from ' North Americas Largest
> Alpaca
> > > Mill '. I wonder how many others who have bought there, like how they
> > > were / are, treated after their money was handed over...
> > >
> > > Jim Guerin
> > > Jimmini Farm
> > > Yelm, WA >>>>
> > >
> > > Oh Jim I hear and feel your heartache. I have lost so many myself;
> > > thought I was the only one. So very sorry to hear of your losses as
> > > well. It stinks.
> > > But truly take what Susan said to heart and try not to feel sorry for
> > > Brandie in her presence. It is so important to keep a positive
> attitude
> > > around her. Pity (for her or yourself) never healed anyone. She has a
> > > sweet heart. Love her love her love her, but let her be an
> > > alpaca.....with her herd. When will you get more info? The not
> knowing
> > > is so hard. But in the not knowing is also the very real possibility
> > > that this is not as bad as it seems.
> > >
> > > Warmly, Janice in NW GA
> > >
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