Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: injections
hi Heidi - thanks for describing this procedure one step further for non-medical types like me - the detail about the bevel makes all the difference because it is exact, and i know what to look for
i always have to wait for someone else to come over and help with injections, and sometimes the wait is too lengthy for comfort - now i have confidence i can do this by myself
and thanks to everyone else who has contributed to this discussion - i have always had a horror of injections and have avoided doing them myself - i'll be going out to the catch pen today with meds in hand - no more waiting for someone else
thanks again
Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
BC
----- Original Message -----
From: Heidi Christensen
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 9:41 AM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: injections
I am also an RN, and used the "human" way of injecting for a short
while. Until I had an animal get away from me with a syringe
sticking out of her shoulder. And of course a couple times when I
poked the needle all the way through the skin.
My main issue is that I am by myself. If I had someone to hold
while I pinched the skin, and put the needle in at a 75 degree angle
etc etc that would be fine. But I don't, so I use the needle cover
method. Take a needle cover, cut off enough to see the whole bevel
of the needle (the slanted part), draw up the medication, replace
the cover, and give the injection. You do need to be a bit careful
not to poke yourself, but I just draw everything up individually in
the catch pen.
The only problem I have had was when I cut the cover too short, and
discovered that the bevel was still covered slightly - the
medication would go up inside the cover instead of in the animal.
Since I figured that out, I haven't had any problem. I also found
that needle sizes have longer or shorter bevels - I think I ended up
using a 22 gauge for most things because the 20 gauge looked like it
needed to be cut so long that it wouldn't go SQ. I always give it in
the shoulder, about half way down, because I have to hold at the
same time.
Heidi Christensen
WingNut Farm
Graham, WA
--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
wrote:
>
> I'll be honest, I haven't tried this technique, I've only seen it
> described, written by a veterinarian. And, I hate to admit, I read
it
> on the website of a person who I really... don't wish to send any
> traffic his way.
>
> And I might add, it is described as just poke, push, and done,
with the
> poking being in the thick skinned areas of the shoulder or rump.
The
> alpacas' skin in those areas is apparently about 1/2" thick, so if
you
> jab 'em and push the plunger, the meds will end up SQ as directed.
For
> IM injectibles, definitely use a 1" needle and inject into the
muscle
> of the rump or shoulder.
>
> Heather
>
>
> On Oct 18, 2008, at 10:40 AM, houckj@... wrote:
>
> > Trying to make sure I totally understand the injection technique
> > recently being discussed. I believe I am correct in my
distillation of
> > the posts that I should get 1/2 inch, 20 gauge needles and
just "poke"
> > as Heather says? I can never seem to get a large enough "tent"
of
> > skin,
> > using Marty McGee's technique; can't say how many times I have
> > injected thru thick fiber and had it come out the other side,
even
> > when
> > I was sure I had the skin tented. They just don't seem to have
much
> > loose sking. If I am correct and can just "poke" oh how simple.
> > Someone mentioned using the thigh - I would avoid that area as
I have
> > been told it is too easy to hit something wrong there. But the
elbow
> > sounds feasible. Still simply walking by and "poking"....
*know* I
> > can do that :-).
> >
> > Warmly, Janice in GA
> >
> >
>
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>
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