[AlpacaTalk] Re: DE questions
I use it for my chickens and have very little fly problems. I am not
scientific about it--I put 2-3 quarts of feed in the feeder, sprinkle
on a dusting of DE, put 1-3 more quarts of feed in, srinkle another
coating, etc. I put my DE in old Kraft parmesean containers as they
have great sprinkle tops and are a decent size. Old creamer
containers also work well, but tend to pour instead of sprinkle. If I
see flys I will also sprinkle the manure piles.
I haven't had nay luck finding food grade DE in ANY local feed store,
after much research last year I found Custom Milling
http://www.custommi
There are people that say it is bad for the intestines and others who
say it isn't. the best discussions I've found on it are on the
Backyard Chickens forum
http://www.backyard
and you'll find tons of stuff.
Morgen Bowers
Dreamwood Farm
Claverack, NY
--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
>
> <<Janice - I don't sprinkle the DE on our manure piles because they
are
> cleaned daily and it would be a waste. I feed it internally to all
the
> animals on
> our ranch except for the goats because our pygmies can't have
grain. I gave
> the recommended feeding dosages in a prior email to AlpacaTalk on
10-10-08.
> I feed it once a day mixed into their grain/pellets. You can spray
water on
> it in the feed to help keep down the dust if you feed it right
away, but I
> don't. It also keeps grain and pellets from molding, so I mix ours
> directly in
> the feed cans with the grain/pellets right when the bags are
delivered.
> >>
>
>
>
> Thanks Susan! I went back thru my mail as I did not remember
reading
> dosages anywhere in this thread. Discovered that is the one digest
I
> had not read! And it has a lot of posts about snail control after
my
> questions about ducks aNd guineas. Now I have to go back and read
all
> that :-).
> Thanks for the detailed dosage amts. I really appreaciate it and
am
> sold! Will be searching for a nice big 40# bag of FOOD quality DE
asap!
> Do you order yours on line?
>
> Now another question. You say you mix it in the feed cans as
well? In
> addition to adding daily to their food? How much do you mix in say
a
> 50# bag of feed? And would you use the same quantity for horse
feed,
> dog feed, goat feed, cat food?
>
> What about chix feed? The fowl is where our worst fly problems
> originate. Have used about a million sticky fly strips in the
chicken
> pen and they will become full almost within an hour of putting up!
>
> So what I am assuming is that by ingesting it comes out in the same
form
> and is in their poop IOW, not digested and changed in form so the
fly
> larva crawling across it are killed?
>
> Now another question I have always had about DE and why I have
never
> used it internally is this......I know what it is and like
previously
> said used it decades ago to dust the house for flea control. I
know
> that it works by mechanical means. IOW, the microscopic sharp edges
> slice thru the little worm and cause it to dehydrate and die. All
well
> and good. This is also the same reason it is considered dangerous
to
> inhale as those little sharp edges will cause microscopic damage to
the
> lining of the lung. But what about the digestive tract? Has
anyone
> here using DE ever read any studies about possible damage to the
> intestinal tract? What if it causes microscopic tears to the
mucosa
> lining? What I know as a human nutritionist (holistic) is that
small
> microscopic damage to the intestinal mucosa leads to what is called
> "leaky gut syndrome" and leads to a world of problems down the line.
>
>
>
> Now if my dogs and cats would just sleep in the same place all the
time
> maybe I could conquer these horrid fleas as well! Even with
Frontline
> and Advantage/tix my dog has suffered for the past 2 years with
fleas.
> I wonder how DE would work against tapeworms? All the cats I
recently
> took in have tapes. I can't afford to take them all to the vet who
will
> NOT give me a prescription to fill on line without an exam AND
> fecal.....can we say hundreds of dollars for barn cats? I mean
come on,
> I KNOW what tapeworms look like (but don't get me started on vets
> again.....money grubbing slime balls. Whoops sorry it just slipped
out.
>
> Warmly, Janice in GA
>
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