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Sunday, February 24, 2008

RE: [AlpacaTalk] for Libby

Allison:

Ooops! Hope you didn't think that post was directed at you -- my
'cutting' finger took too much out. It was really directed at
Stephanie (and others) who had posted again about Libby being
dishonest. I have enjoyed your educational posts re: law. They are
quite informative and do help to clear the mud. Just thought I'd
throw out my viewpoint of what was going on, from a layman's perspective.

Susan

PS Getting ready to do a Spring Dance to help speed up the process
of warmer weather's arrival -- in part so that I don't sit in front
of this stupid computer and get caught up in things that don't really
merit my time!! Maybe now I can keep quiet...........

At 08:36 PM 2/23/2008, you wrote:

>Hi Susan,
>
>I have no firsthand knowledge of either case.but I have access as an officer
>of the court.to the complete online files of these cases.so I can see what
>is not being put forward. Met Libby briefly at a mixer during 2005
>Nationals where I was volunteering.but don't really know her otherwise. Met
>Ana at some mixer somewhere.can't remember now. Met Mary at the same
>place..briefly again. Don't really know any of them.
>
>To the extent that I comment, I'm trying to keep to the focus of using the
>comments as an opportunity to educate Alpacasiters about how to look at
>legal cases and compare it with a lot of the mud throwing that is going
>on.most of which is omissively incorrect or just plain wide of reality.
>
>LOL was a case I'd hoped would come out better for the alpaca community.not
>just Libby but a lot of the smaller farms that were hit so badly they went
>out of business.and lost fuzzy friends that they had to see die an awful
>death. As much as the public documents in Ana & Floyd's matters before the
>court disclose.it is one of those "in pro per" cases that makes absolutely
>no sense. The court tried to give them the benefit of every doubt and read
>the moving papers expansively.but in the end, they had to kill it as there
>were no legally valid causes of action to bring forward. Just explaining
>what the court material means is giving some perspective to the "vendetta"
>type mentality that Libby has been facing.but it could be anyone..it is not
>because it is Libby.I don't think anyone should have to defend their in
>court conduct in other forums, essentially if the court had found something
>wrong with the conduct.it would have acted during court proceedings.
>
>That Ana & Floyd are trying to use it as grist here is unfortunate.but also
>inaccurate in the extreme..at least as to the comments they are making.
>
>I have told Libby on the side not to make further comments..that makes Ana
>fight with me.and I'm staying both neutral and educational.so it should die
>out eventually.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Allison
>
>From:
><mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com>AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Susan Forman
>Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 4:44 PM
>To: <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com>AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] for Libby
>
>Okay, I shouldn't open my mouth, but I'm going to ---- Libby is a big
>girl and doesn't need me or anybody to stand up for her -- she's
>perfectly capable of fighting her own battles. And for the record,
>I've never met Libby, Ana or anybody else that's been arguing here.........
>
>I'm not an attorney, don't play one, etc., (and I have no idea if
>this is even accurate) but it struck me that when Anthony chose to
>take the job for LOL he immediately opened himself up for all kinds
>of scrutiny -- good, bad, ugly, whatever. Any of us would give our
>attorney ALL the information that we had if we were involved in any
>lawsuit for any reason. As I understand it, that is a confidential
>relationship (attorney-client) that the law looks at pretty
>seriously. We then pay our attorney to advise us as to what we need
>to do. If we're smart, we recognize that we don't know the law
>(haven't gone to school as our attorney has) and do whatever our
>attorney advises. After all, that's what they're paid to do --
>advise us on the law. So, the point at which Anthony accepted the
>role of 'expert witness', whether he actually turned over papers or
>not is irrelevant. He accepted a position that he should have known
>would hold him up to be scrutinized, publicly. He knew what he had
>been involved in. As for Mary Reed, too bad. I doubt that the
>courts thought twice about her, but she was his business partner and
>much of what happened that Mary did (or didn't do) stood to benefit Anthony.
>
>I don't know all the facts of this case nor do I care to. I don't
>know what Libby did or didn't do. I do know that there is one
>helluva lot of paper that wasn't downloaded to the files re: that
>case, so for anybody, including myself, to pass any judgement is
>ridiculous. Besides that, it's a dead issue -- the courts ruled,
>it's a done deal. Let it rest already! My 'take' on it is pretty
>simple, but as I get older, I get more simple -- life doesn't need to
>be so blasted complicated.
>
>I just wish ya'll would settle down -- when I start posting stuff
>like this, I know that winter has gone on much too long -- I need
>some more active kinds of entertainment to get involved with ---
>
>Susan
>
>At 07:14 PM 2/23/2008, you wrote:
>
>Susan Forman & Eric Jenkins
>Dewey Morning Alpacas
>423 Greenfield-Sabina Rd.
>Washington Court House, OH 43160
>740-636-1899 Home
>937-901-1509 Cell
>www.DeweyMorningAlpacas.com
><http://www.alpacanation.com/deweymorning.asp>http://www.alpacanation.com/deweymorning.asp
>Home of Huey, Dewey and Louie
>
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Susan Forman & Eric Jenkins
Dewey Morning Alpacas
423 Greenfield-Sabina Rd.
Washington Court House, OH 43160
740-636-1899 Home
937-901-1509 Cell
www.DeweyMorningAlpacas.com
http://www.alpacanation.com/deweymorning.asp
Home of Huey, Dewey and Louie
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