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Saturday, February 23, 2008

RE: [AlpacaTalk] for Libby

Hi Susan,

I have no firsthand knowledge of either case.but I have access as an officer
of the court.to the complete online files of these cases.so I can see what
is not being put forward. Met Libby briefly at a mixer during 2005
Nationals where I was volunteering.but don't really know her otherwise. Met
Ana at some mixer somewhere.can't remember now. Met Mary at the same
place..briefly again. Don't really know any of them.

To the extent that I comment, I'm trying to keep to the focus of using the
comments as an opportunity to educate Alpacasiters about how to look at
legal cases and compare it with a lot of the mud throwing that is going
on.most of which is omissively incorrect or just plain wide of reality.

LOL was a case I'd hoped would come out better for the alpaca community.not
just Libby but a lot of the smaller farms that were hit so badly they went
out of business.and lost fuzzy friends that they had to see die an awful
death. As much as the public documents in Ana & Floyd's matters before the
court disclose.it is one of those "in pro per" cases that makes absolutely
no sense. The court tried to give them the benefit of every doubt and read
the moving papers expansively.but in the end, they had to kill it as there
were no legally valid causes of action to bring forward. Just explaining
what the court material means is giving some perspective to the "vendetta"
type mentality that Libby has been facing.but it could be anyone..it is not
because it is Libby.I don't think anyone should have to defend their in
court conduct in other forums, essentially if the court had found something
wrong with the conduct.it would have acted during court proceedings.

That Ana & Floyd are trying to use it as grist here is unfortunate.but also
inaccurate in the extreme..at least as to the comments they are making.

I have told Libby on the side not to make further comments..that makes Ana
fight with me.and I'm staying both neutral and educational.so it should die
out eventually.

Best Regards,

Allison

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Susan Forman
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 4:44 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] for Libby

Okay, I shouldn't open my mouth, but I'm going to ---- Libby is a big
girl and doesn't need me or anybody to stand up for her -- she's
perfectly capable of fighting her own battles. And for the record,
I've never met Libby, Ana or anybody else that's been arguing here.........

I'm not an attorney, don't play one, etc., (and I have no idea if
this is even accurate) but it struck me that when Anthony chose to
take the job for LOL he immediately opened himself up for all kinds
of scrutiny -- good, bad, ugly, whatever. Any of us would give our
attorney ALL the information that we had if we were involved in any
lawsuit for any reason. As I understand it, that is a confidential
relationship (attorney-client) that the law looks at pretty
seriously. We then pay our attorney to advise us as to what we need
to do. If we're smart, we recognize that we don't know the law
(haven't gone to school as our attorney has) and do whatever our
attorney advises. After all, that's what they're paid to do --
advise us on the law. So, the point at which Anthony accepted the
role of 'expert witness', whether he actually turned over papers or
not is irrelevant. He accepted a position that he should have known
would hold him up to be scrutinized, publicly. He knew what he had
been involved in. As for Mary Reed, too bad. I doubt that the
courts thought twice about her, but she was his business partner and
much of what happened that Mary did (or didn't do) stood to benefit Anthony.

I don't know all the facts of this case nor do I care to. I don't
know what Libby did or didn't do. I do know that there is one
helluva lot of paper that wasn't downloaded to the files re: that
case, so for anybody, including myself, to pass any judgement is
ridiculous. Besides that, it's a dead issue -- the courts ruled,
it's a done deal. Let it rest already! My 'take' on it is pretty
simple, but as I get older, I get more simple -- life doesn't need to
be so blasted complicated.

I just wish ya'll would settle down -- when I start posting stuff
like this, I know that winter has gone on much too long -- I need
some more active kinds of entertainment to get involved with ---

Susan

At 07:14 PM 2/23/2008, you wrote:

Susan Forman & Eric Jenkins
Dewey Morning Alpacas
423 Greenfield-Sabina Rd.
Washington Court House, OH 43160
740-636-1899 Home
937-901-1509 Cell
www.DeweyMorningAlpacas.com
http://www.alpacanation.com/deweymorning.asp
Home of Huey, Dewey and Louie

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