RE: [AlpacaTalk] for Libby
Ana,
I do not choose sides.but you well know from a full review of the documents
in this matter..not the partial set now available on this site, that the
Discovery required All relevant or Potentially relevant documentation be
provided. And any confidentiality agreement cannot prevent disclosure where
it would contravene law. The agreement simply does not have the power to
break the law to remain confidential.
So the agreement does not govern the law of discovery..it is the other way
around. Discovery requires all documents..private between parties or not.
The "binding" of such an agreement cannot require you to omit full
disclosure when a court orders discovery.
Libby.or you for that matter..would have had to disclose every relevant or
POTENTIALLY relevant document. This was a POTENTIALLY relevant document.
One side or the other would have had to come up with it. The court reviewed
and redacted as it saw fit.again as the law requires.
Apparently at some later date a scrivener's error posted an unredacted
copy.which was withdrawn and redacted for the full open record.again the
court took care of the matter.
My question is:
WHY ARE EITHER OF YOU DISCUSSING A FINALIZED MATTER UPON WHICH THE COURT
RULED..at this time and in this forum where it is neither relevant nor
appropriate.
What could your purpose be? You will not win here what you lost there. And
should you think you could..you merely open yourselves to all types of suit
for libel.
This is not a good idea and truly should not go further. The matter has
been settled at law. There is always a winner and a loser in each trial.
someone is vested with each part and we move on. If you are smarting, lick
your wounds and move on.
Do that now here as well.
Best Regards,
Allison
From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Behalf Of Floyd Romanik
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:11 AM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] for Libby
Dick,
I guess I'm unsure if you're trying to support Libby or insult her. I'm
referring to your quote from Hubbard. "The purpose of a law suit is to
harass and discourage rather than win. The law can be used very easily to
harass, and enough harassment on somebody will generally be sufficient to
cause professional decease. If possible, of course, ruin him utterly. "
Seriously, Libby was just doing what she felt was right when she signed on
to the Intervener filing against AOBA and appeal, when she as ARI President
filed suit against Mary Reed and of course when she filed suit against Land
O Lakes in Federal court and again when not satisfied through the state
district courts. Unfortunately, she was not correct when she violated the
confidentiality agreement she signed as ARI President.
So are you supporting Libby or insulting her? Or are you maybe trying to
justify some kind of double standard where some are allowed to bring
lawsuits and others are not as you seem to believe they're initiated to
simply "harass"?
Sincerely,
Ana
Floyd and Ana Romanik
Indian Summer Alpacas
Chepachet, Rhode Island
Phone: (401) 568-7759
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[mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
On
Behalf Of Dick McCoy
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:20 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] for Libby
Libby,
You are wrong about owing property on the moon. If you insist on claiming
moon ownership I will be forced to sue you. I personally purchased the moon
including all mineral rights from a guy in 42nd. Street last week. I will
email you a copy of the deed if you wish.
I am not at all annoyed, envious or bitter about the other properties and
business you own, In fact, I pity those obsessed with useless envy. I only
object to your claim on my moon.
Please do not take my threat to sue lightly. Remember the quote from
Hubbard.
"The purpose of a law suit is to harass and discourage rather than win.
The law can be used very easily to harass, and enough harassment on
somebody will generally be sufficient to cause professional decease.
If possible, of course, ruin him utterly. "
You have been warned.
Best personal regards.
Dick McCoy
Foxrun Farms Alpacas
Cato, NY 13033
MyMoon@alpacafarms.
(315) 626-2672
----- Original Message -----
From: libby@alpacafarm.
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] for Libby
Hello all,
You left out my property on the moon.
If any of you have real questions that you would like an answer to, I'll be
glad to answer. My phone number is 330-722-4820 or you can email me at
libby@alpacafarm.
Best wishes, Stephanie.
Libby
Libby Forstner
Magical Farms
Stardust Alpacas
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yahoo.com> To
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Subject
[AlpacaTalk] for Libby
02/20/2008 01:39
PM
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Libby,
Why do you continue to ask Heather if she is funding
the lawsuit? Surely you know the answer to that. It
seems that you are just stirring up your own cauldron
and have literally nothing to work with, so you are
trying to invent something.
Besides, you have been asked quite a few questions
that you are avoiding at all costs. Try to answer some
of them for us, please.
You cannot have a public forum and belch out your own
snide comments and accusations and then ask for people
to call or email privately to discuss it further. If
you have something to say, say it. The "Oh, you aren't
a member so I don't have to talk to you" reminds me of
a child saying "You're not my mom! I don't have to do
what you say!" It is not effective or mature. It looks
like you are just trying to avoid the subject. You
certainly could always call us right? If you are
really wanting to get to the bottom of it, I would
think you would be willing to pick up a phone.
Something else has been annoying me for quite a while
now and now is as good a time as any to say it. I do
not think anyone believes your "small farmer" act. You
do not represent the average small business, even if
you have under 100 employees. You have around 1600
alpacas, a box factory in the South (Georgia,
believe), a plastic bag factory in Honduras, a large
chain of auto lube places in Ohio, self storage
facilities, real estate investments.
are more. You are hardly "one of us". I take great
offense when you try to portray yourself just as one
of the crowd. I recall you saying about a month ago
that you don't have any extra money to donate to PBS
or anywhere besides your alpaca marketing...
You are not fooling anyone. Please stop trying to kid
yourself.
Stephanie
Stardust Alpacas
Ana,
My question re: Heather still remains unanswered in
all forums.
You dropped your lawsuit against current and past
Board members (including
my husband) where you were going for a BIG cash award
because you had no
proof...none. ..nothing. ..zippo. The Judge's opinion
said it all on the
other lawsuit. If you don't like paying legal
expenses, it's simple. Stop
suing people.
I'm not going to comment any further on your posts. If
someone wants
answers to your posts, and are curious about my
answers, they are more than
welcome to ask me privately and I will be HAPPY to
answer them. You are
no longer a member of AOBA, you are no longer my
friend and I see no point
in answering your pointless, argumentative, unending,
"obsessive" (Judge's
description) questions.
My home phone number is 330-722-4820. Or, e-mail me at
libby@alpacafarm. com
Libby
Libby Forstner
Magical Farms
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