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Sunday, January 13, 2008

[AlpacaTalk] Re: protecting my herd

I just got some llamas for guard duty from Wayne Coussens of Perry,
GA (http://www.alohallama.com/). He was a llama breeder and
exhibitor and he is selling off his stock to focus on other
pursuits. I had quite a few people tell me how credible he was and I
am very pleased with the llamas I received from him. He doesn't have
any geldings, but his vet will geld boys for around $%175 each, so
they can be gelded when they arrive. He also will deliver at a very
reasonable rate, so even though you may not be real close it might be
worth checking with him.

Joyce Maley, http://www.myalpacas.com


--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Emaly Leak" <llamapyr25@...>
wrote:
>
> Thanks for the information. I think fencing will be the #1
priority, then
> looking at guard llamas or dogs. Unfortunately, both attacks have
been
> during the day when no one was home, so there hasn't been much we
could do.
> A better defense is on the horizon, though. Emaly
>
>
>
> Emaly Leak
>
> Autumn Hill Llamas & Fiber
>
> llamapyr25@...
>
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>
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>
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> _____
>
> From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of montanajag
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 9:03 AM
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: protecting my herd
>
>
>
> Hi Emaly,
>
> This subject hits home! We, unfortunately, have had a dog attack in
> the middle of the night that seriously injured four of our five
> herdsires. One of which had to be put down because of the extensive
> damage. The others, we are happy to report, are now well on their
way
> to a complete recovery although we won't be able to show them this
> year. Because there are wolves in our area the state agriculture
was
> involved and a tracker came to investigate. As it turned out the
> attackers were a pack of large dogs, two or more. We re-evaluated
> our fencing and here's what we came up with.
>
> We raised the height to 6ft by overlapping two 4ft rolls of field
> fencing and adding 7ft t-post, effectively giving us the same
> protection of 2 x 4 no-climb but at a much lower cost. No-climb 2x4
> generaly comes in a 100ft roll where field fence comes in a 330ft
> roll. Based on the prices in our area a 300ft fence with no-climb
2x4
> would cost ~$550 where the same fence using overlapping field fence
> costs ~$240. Of course thats just for the woven fence fabric, posts
> etc. are extra. We attached 4"x4"x5' garden fencing to all the
gates.
> To go the extra mile consider trenching 4" deep around the
perimeter
> and laying down barbed wire to prevent anything from digging under
> the fence since canines are more likely to go under rather than
over,
> especially, a 6ft high fence.
>
> We also, now have a guard llama that was given to us by a very
> thoughful alpaca breeder in our area. Our neighbors call him " Bad
> ass llama" although he is very sweet and has 12yrs experience
> guarding alpacas. Remember, a llama is still no match for a pack of
> canines. Definately talk to your neighbors they may not know the
> value of your alpacas and the liabilty thier dog is exposing them
to.
> Just because the dog is just playing by chasing the alpacas doesn't
> mean there's no damage involved. Your pregnant females could loose
> thier crias if chased and you would be out a years breeding.
>
> The bottom line...ranchers out here tell us...if it is
> attacking/chasing your livestock....shoot it.
>
> Jim
> Beartooth Alpaca Ranch
> Roberts, Montana
>
> --- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogro <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com,
> "Emaly Leak" <llamapyr25@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > After having my llamas and alpacas attacked TWICE by neighboring
> German
> > Shepherds, I have realized that I need to make some drastic
changes
> on our
> > farm. We're planning on running electric fence around the
> perimeter of the
> > pastures. I am also considering purchasing an additional guard
> llama or
> > LGD. I have one guard llama, but she is getting older, and can't
> protect
> > every pasture. For those of you with similar experiences...any
> > recommendations on how to better protect my herd? We've been
> extremely
> > lucky that no one has been killed, and I'd like to keep it that
way.
> > Thanks, Emaly Leak
> >
> >
> >
> > Emaly Leak
> >
> > Autumn Hill Llamas & Fiber
> >
> > llamapyr25@
> >
> > www.autumnhillllamas.com <http://www.autumnhi
> <http://www.autumnhillllamas.com/> llllamas.com/>
> >
> > Fairland, IN
> >
> > Llamas, Alpacas, German Angora Rabbits, and Fiber Items
> >
> > Female & Male Llamas For Sale
> >
> > Outside Breedings available to ALSA Halter Champion Male
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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