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Monday, November 28, 2005

Re: [Alpacasite] Re: needing a sounding board of impartial people

The animals are healthy and are lovely animals. The 2 girls are a little
older 10 yrs. Their crias that they have are very lovely. The fathers of
the crias are males that I have liked for a long time and I am thrilled to
have a baby from them.
I have checked the registry to make sure she owns them and the males. I
will be calling to make certain everything is fine tomorrow. I will be
giving them a nominal down payment and then nothing until the registrations
are transferred to me and everything is clear.
They made a mistake and are paying for it dearly. I would never have been
able to afford an animal from them yet if this had not happened. As far as
support goes. I can have as much support from them as I would like. They
have been in the business for a long time and have done well until this
incident. This is not inferior animals and thee is no genetic problem from
what I know of the animals lines.

My main concern was how others would feel about me buying the animals. I had
heard that there were rumours of them going to auction. I was told to wait
and then buy some. I felt I would rather talk with her and touch the
animals and take my time instead of just buying them through a ring and not
knowing anything. I had certain animals that I wanted so yes I paid more
this way but not as much as I would have if I had tried to buy them last
year.
Does this make more sense :-)
Lori
www.heronview.4t.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "majesticfarm" <alpacas@MajesticFarm.com>
To: <Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 2:50 PM
Subject: [Alpacasite] Re: needing a sounding board of impartial people

> Without knowing details, there are two sides to having a bad
> reputation: bad business practices, and bad breeding practices.
>
> If their reputation is "bad" because of business practices, then you
> know your risk in contracting with them. The risk to you may be worth
> the price (no support, no recourse if an animal is not reproductively
> sound, or cannot produce a viable cria, etc). Only you can decide how
> much risk you can stomach.
>
> If their reputation is "bad" because of breeding practices, I'd spend
> a great deal of time researching their ancestry on the ARI cert before
> buying. You do not want to end up with a new herd of animals and find
> out several consistently throw conformational or fatal birth defects.
> Then the risk is NOT worth the price. In my opinion, nobody should be
> able to stomach that risk. You have a herd of pets. And if you try
> to sell the offspring, you are perpetuating that original breeder's
> bad reputation, but giving it your name.
>
> I see that you have something to worry about with your own reputation,
> especially since you are new. You have all your eggs in this one
> basket. As a small breeder, if you only sell one alpaca a year, your
> whole reputation is on that one alpaca. IF the alpaca is poor
> quality, or has genetic issues, your whole reputation as a breeder is
> delineated by that alpaca sale. It isn't easy to build a great
> reputation as a respected breeder one alpaca a year, so you have to
> make each sale over-the-top as great as it can be.
>
> For instance, if I learn that "Superstar Stud" has progeny who wins
> all kinds of awards, but occasionally throws a fatal defect, I HAVE to
> stay away from that "Superstar Stud" because if I choose to breed to
> him, and the cria born on my farm is the occasional fatal defect, I'm
> toast for the year. I'm out production, and I have to work harder to
> justify my dam's value when the next cria is born. And if I only have
> two breeding females on my farm, I have suffered a serious setback in
> my breeding program.
>
> Just some thoughts from another small, new breeder.
>
> Laura Patten
> Majestic Farm
> Eatonville, WA
>
>
>

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