[Alpacasite] Re: needing a sounding board of impartial people

Hello Lori,
I guess it comes down to thier mistake in my opinion. We all make
mistakes. I would clear up everything first, and that is what it
sounds like you are doing. Why are they selling them cheap because of
thier reputation? I wish you the best
Lea
Williamstown , NJ
--- In Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com, "Lori Dzingala" <leolvr@l...>
wrote:
>
> The animals are healthy and are lovely animals. The 2 girls are a
little
> older 10 yrs. Their crias that they have are very lovely. The
fathers of
> the crias are males that I have liked for a long time and I am
thrilled to
> have a baby from them.
> I have checked the registry to make sure she owns them and the
males. I
> will be calling to make certain everything is fine tomorrow. I will
be
> giving them a nominal down payment and then nothing until the
registrations
> are transferred to me and everything is clear.
> They made a mistake and are paying for it dearly. I would never
have been
> able to afford an animal from them yet if this had not happened.
As far as
> support goes. I can have as much support from them as I would like.
They
> have been in the business for a long time and have done well until
this
> incident. This is not inferior animals and thee is no genetic
problem from
> what I know of the animals lines.
>
> My main concern was how others would feel about me buying the
animals. I had
> heard that there were rumours of them going to auction. I was told
to wait
> and then buy some. I felt I would rather talk with her and touch
the
> animals and take my time instead of just buying them through a ring
and not
> knowing anything. I had certain animals that I wanted so yes I
paid more
> this way but not as much as I would have if I had tried to buy them
last
> year.
> Does this make more sense :-)
> Lori
> www.heronview.4t.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "majesticfarm" <alpacas@M...>
> To: <Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 2:50 PM
> Subject: [Alpacasite] Re: needing a sounding board of impartial
people
>
>
> > Without knowing details, there are two sides to having a bad
> > reputation: bad business practices, and bad breeding practices.
> >
> > If their reputation is "bad" because of business practices, then
you
> > know your risk in contracting with them. The risk to you may be
worth
> > the price (no support, no recourse if an animal is not
reproductively
> > sound, or cannot produce a viable cria, etc). Only you can
decide how
> > much risk you can stomach.
> >
> > If their reputation is "bad" because of breeding practices, I'd
spend
> > a great deal of time researching their ancestry on the ARI cert
before
> > buying. You do not want to end up with a new herd of animals and
find
> > out several consistently throw conformational or fatal birth
defects.
> > Then the risk is NOT worth the price. In my opinion, nobody
should be
> > able to stomach that risk. You have a herd of pets. And if you
try
> > to sell the offspring, you are perpetuating that original
breeder's
> > bad reputation, but giving it your name.
> >
> > I see that you have something to worry about with your own
reputation,
> > especially since you are new. You have all your eggs in this one
> > basket. As a small breeder, if you only sell one alpaca a year,
your
> > whole reputation is on that one alpaca. IF the alpaca is poor
> > quality, or has genetic issues, your whole reputation as a
breeder is
> > delineated by that alpaca sale. It isn't easy to build a great
> > reputation as a respected breeder one alpaca a year, so you have
to
> > make each sale over-the-top as great as it can be.
> >
> > For instance, if I learn that "Superstar Stud" has progeny who
wins
> > all kinds of awards, but occasionally throws a fatal defect, I
HAVE to
> > stay away from that "Superstar Stud" because if I choose to breed
to
> > him, and the cria born on my farm is the occasional fatal defect,
I'm
> > toast for the year. I'm out production, and I have to work
harder to
> > justify my dam's value when the next cria is born. And if I only
have
> > two breeding females on my farm, I have suffered a serious
setback in
> > my breeding program.
> >
> > Just some thoughts from another small, new breeder.
> >
> > Laura Patten
> > Majestic Farm
> > Eatonville, WA
> >
> >
> >
>

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