RE: [AlpacaTalk] female mating

 

Hi JaniceElizabeth,

 

Girls will mount girls as a “courtesy” to ease the frustrations of an open girl.  The other reason this might occur has to do with hormone shift/imbalance.  Mounting generally does not concern me;  I am more concerned about the statement that your girl lost her pregnancy due to shearing her while pregnant. 

 

We have been in business since 2004; our animals were in Stockton, CA---where the heat can top 117 at times---and we shear ALL of our animals, no matter how pregnant they are.  We have NEVER lost a pregnancy due to the shearing stress….so the question becomes---

Most farms I know do shear everyone and do not lose pregnancies due to shearing.  Why is the shearing your girl has so stressful for her?

 

HOW are you shearing that it is so stressful for your girl or is there something else going on?

 

We use shearing restraints on the ground.  I have seen them also shorn standing, but we have much better results with ground restraints over a mat, safer, faster for people and animals.  Shearing tables can work also, and save the back of the shearer.

 

All our girls---some as near to birthing as a week---are shorn “nudie” yearly, except for one older girl who does not have enough fleece to make it through the winter cold if we don’t leave the fleece; we alternate her between barrel cut, no cut and nudie. 

 

Now, this year we have relocated to Washington state---we sheared much later in the season---but again, everyone was shorn, save the one.

 

Perhaps this particular girl could use a workup from a reproductive vet?   It is a shame to lose a breeding you have been anticipating for over a year---we have had it happen, but not often.  Does this girl go down in condition while nursing the prior cria and carrying the new one?  Perhaps she needs some extra nutritional support or some additional considerations---time to talk to the vet!

 

Best of luck with the next breeding and cria…

 

Allison

 

Allison E. Moss-Fritch

New Moon Alpacas

350 Cloquallum Rd.

Elma, WA 98541

 

360 861-8584

 

 

 

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jelizabethfarms1@bellsouth.net
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 9:07 AM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] female mating

 

 

My breeding female has been mating our young girl (her dtr) lately.
She was preg, but lost the baby with the stress of shearing this year
(same as last year) - huge disappointment as we were looking forward to
a fall cria :-(. Evidently to her as well. She has all summer been
jumping up on the back of this only slightly smaller female, but the
past week she has been performing actual mating behavior. The smaller
one is cushed and the older female is mating her - exactly as a male
would do. Same vocals, same body movements. Then when she rolls off
she just lays there on her side appearing to be in pain or discomfort
with her back legs frozen in position, hard to describe - laying on her
side with her hind legs up in the air separated.

Is this common? Should I be worried about anything? The younger one
doesn't seem to mind, is not struggling to get away or anything.

She has been flirting over the fence and the male has about torn down
the fence to get to her but it is way too hot and I do NOT want a summer
cria next year. So I will not be allowing them to get together for a
date until well into fall.

Thanks, JaniceElizabeth

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