Re: [AlpacaTalk] what to use?
Jim;
Good point. We have never had problems with a cria being on milk replacer here.
We bought the same thing Jim did and we have never had a problem with it in our sheep, goat kids, or the bottle baby pacas we had. Maybe it was the way it was mixed or just not accepted well by the cria's system. Either way, I agree with Jim. One can't all label milk replacer as a horrible option because of a few bad experiences. I know several farm who won't feed anything else to their bottle babies and all have done well.
Maegan
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From: "J Guerin" <jgyelwa@ywave.
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----- Original Message -----From: Heather ZelenySent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 4:38 PMSubject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] what to use?I tried milk replacer with my wall baby last year, and it could have been a bad sequence of events and coincidences, but I nearly lost her to heat stroke and dehydration during a heat wave last summer while she was on the replacer. I switched to whole cows milk with whipping cream and live yogurt, and it did take a while for her to gain the weight she lost, but I'll never mess around with replacers again. While it was more convenient, it was not more economical by any means, and if you lose a baby, it makes no sense at all.
And, even though it is not as effective as fresh colostrum, I will give reconstituted powdered bovine colostrum to any cria we think needs it. In the bovine studies I've read, while immunity is not as high as those who receive fresh, some is better than nothing, and those with the lower IgG did not show greater mortality than those who received fresh colostrum, who had the higher IgG values.HeatherHeather ZelenyWhite Lotus AlpacasOregonHolistic Farm and Elite Fleece
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--- On Sun, 3/21/10, Daniel Emmerich <enchantedmeadows@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Daniel Emmerich <enchantedmeadows@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] what to use?
To: alpacatalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 21, 2010, 7:05 AM
I have mixed kid milk replacer with mom's milk and they all did fine. Make the change slowly with adding the milk replacer now, before you run out of moms milk. It stretches moms milk out and if you start milking 3x a day, it will not be a big deal when she supplies to all.
I hope that helps. Peggy.
Daniel and Peggy Emmerich
EnchantedMeadows Alpacas & Goats
9357 CTY RD O
Wausau WI 54401
715.675.0584
www.enchantedmeadows.com
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From: alpacameadows@aol.com
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:34:19 -0400
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] what to use?
My first timer nubian goat, had triplets, she did reject them, but i'm milking her 2 times a day, and feeding the kids. She only gives about 1/2 gal. of milk per day, which i mix with some frozen milk, I had last year, from another goat. BUT now i'm running out of the frozen milk. And wondering what I can mix with moms milk, so there is enough, for each day. the kids are a week old, and doing very good, i'm feeding them at 8:00 12:30, 5:30 and the last feeding at 10:00 at night. That has been working pretty good. Should I mix moms milk with kid replacer? I sure hate to change things (formula). But when you run out, you have to do something! any suggestions?Carolyn5395 w. 1275 s
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