[AlpacaTalk] Re: what to use?
And when I say you "disagree" what I meant was really, that you antagonize. Any thing I say, you will refute and ridicule. That is not exactly the same as disagreeing.
Everyone is free to disagree and to offer differing opinions. But Jim, the way you flame me is really not welcome here.
Best regards,
Heather
--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
>
> Good lord Jim,
>
> Again, I have not moderated your posts. I wonder why you keep
> insisting that I have? If you look at your posts, it does look like
> you disagree with me. Other people have also posted their preference
> for feeding bottle babies, with formulas similar to mine, yet you
> haven't disagreed with them. So why would I think you go out of your
> way to disagree with me?
>
> Once again, this is infinitely childish and I'm very tired of it.
>
> Heather
>
> Heather Zeleny
> White Lotus Alpacas
> Oregon
>
> Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
> http://www.whitelot
> http://whitelotus.
>
> On Mar 25, 2010, at 12:23 AM, J Guerin wrote:
>
> >
> > Heather,
> >
> > I am having a VERY hard time understanding why you feel I have been
> > attacking you or your posts.
> >
> > You stated your feelings. I did not agree with them, and so
> > stated. Again you took it personal. That was not my intention,
> > just stating I used the product, and had no problems with it.
> >
> > I have no ill feelings towards you.
> >
> > What happened between you and, as you put it last year, ' My little
> > friend', has nothing to do with me. No, I am not pissed off about
> > that.
> >
> > If you feel that just because I disagree with you, and you moderate
> > me, so be it.
> >
> > It is a poor state of affairs, when I, or any one else, can not
> > have an opinion. Oh, yes, we can, as long as it is the same as the
> > one that stated theirs, yours in this case.
> >
> > Jim Guerin
> > Jimmini Farm
> > Yelm, WA
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Heather Zeleny
> > To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] what to use?
> >
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> >
> > I have tried to use restraint and not use the "moderator" authority
> > in my dealings with you so far. However, as I have stated privately
> > to you, if you had treated any other member the way you have
> > constantly treated me since last summer, I would have had no choice
> > but to deal with the situation in a much more timely manner. I have
> > put up with it longer than I would in any other setting.
> >
> > I will now ask you directly to stop attacking my posts and
> > apparently going out of your way to find any point of disagreement
> > with any of my thoughts or opinions.
> >
> >
> > Heather
> >
> > Heather Zeleny
> > White Lotus Alpacas
> > Oregon
> >
> > Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
> > http://www.whitelot
> > http://whitelotus.
> >
> > On Mar 24, 2010, at 11:46 PM, J Guerin wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Heather, exactly what do you mean ' On any other group, well,
> >> things would be quite different.' Please explain.
> >>
> >> >But again, that replacer is made from rendered animal fat and
> >> proteins. Is that the sort of thing you really want to feed your
> >> ruminant babies? >
> >>
> >> It worked for Brandie. She hasn't turned into a cannibal. As I
> >> stated, if need be, I will use it again.
> >>
> >> Jim Guerin
> >> Jimmini Farm
> >> Yelm, WA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Heather Zeleny
> >> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:30 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] what to use?
> >>
> >>
> >> I have to wonder if either of you actually read the words on my
> >> posts or just go off making assumptions about what you think I
> >> meant...
> >>
> >>
> >> I did not label all milk replacer as anything. I said I would not
> >> use it again. I also clearly stated that I had mixed it according
> >> to the package directions for alpacas.
> >>
> >> The two of you really should read a little more carefully before
> >> making your replies. On any other group, well, things would be
> >> quite different.
> >>
> >>
> >> But again, that replacer is made from rendered animal fat and
> >> proteins. Is that the sort of thing you really want to feed your
> >> ruminant babies?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Heather
> >>
> >> Heather Zeleny
> >> White Lotus Alpacas
> >> Oregon
> >>
> >> Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
> >> http://www.whitelot
> >> http://whitelotus.
> >>
> >> On Mar 24, 2010, at 1:22 PM, cedar_grove_
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Jim;
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Good point. We have never had problems with a cria being on milk
> >>> replacer here.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We bought the same thing Jim did and we have never had a problem
> >>> with it in our sheep, goat kids, or the bottle baby pacas we had.
> >>> Maybe it was the way it was mixed or just not accepted well by
> >>> the cria's system. Either way, I agree with Jim. One can't all
> >>> label milk replacer as a horrible option because of a few bad
> >>> experiences. I know several farm who won't feed anything else to
> >>> their bottle babies and all have done well.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Maegan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "J Guerin" <jgyelwa@...
> >>> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:09:19 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
> >>> Pacific
> >>> Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] what to use?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How can you blame the milk replacer for nearly loosing your
> >>> baby? I would think the heat stroke / dehydration had more to do
> >>> with the problem, than the replacer.
> >>>
> >>> The milk replacer is not more economical?? When I had my bottle
> >>> baby, Brandie, I was buying goats milk at Wally World. It came
> >>> out to more than $16 a Gallon. At one point, a snow storm closed
> >>> the mountain pass, so the shipment couldn't get over the hump
> >>> ( mountain ). I got a product called Grade A Ultra 24, a multi-
> >>> purpose, multi species milk replacer, it was $33 for eight lbs.
> >>> I added a Tbl spoon of plain yogurt per quart also. It came out
> >>> to about a dollar a quart. Brandie sucked down 20 oz at each
> >>> feeding. She is doing and looking very well.
> >>>
> >>> Labeling all milk replacer as bad, or useless, is a disservice to
> >>> everyone.
> >>>
> >>> Jim Guerin
> >>> Jimmini Farm
> >>> Yelm, WA
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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