Re: [AlpacaTalk] Pet peeve
Yes, I think you're right. In fact, I think it was your discussion a few months ago on this thread that got me checking into the percentage of full Bolis (in my case suris) still extant in the US. When I looked across the composition of my suri herd, I was surprised to find that almost every one of my females had at least some percentage of Bolivian, so I decided to make it a goal to increase that percentage by bringing in full Boli males to complement them. Then I was able to swap out several of my part Peruvian gals for full Boli females, so now everyone in my herd is at least part Boli - with 5 full Boli females, 1 7/8 Boli female, and 1 3/4 Boli female, along with a smattering of half, quarter and one-eighth bolivian gals, one full Boli junior male and 8 breedings next year to Rewind's sire - a real coup! -- except a couple of males I'm still looking to sell or swap. Anyone got a dark (MB or darker) full Boli male to swap for a champion full Peruvian??? :-)
Judith Korff
LadySong Farm
Music to Your Wallet
Randolph, New York 14772
Cell: (716) 499-0383
From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 10:57:39 AM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Pet peeve
My sentiments are right with yours regarding COO, Judith. While ultimately it id about superior fleece, it does sadden me that Bolivians are becoming diluted so. I'm also focusing on collecting full Bolivians and preserving them, but with huacayas, where you are focusing on suris, right?
And it appears that there are a greater percentage of full Bolivian suris still out there, than huacayas.
Heather
On Nov 22, 2009, at 7:20 AM, Judith Korff/Ladysong Farm wrote:
Only that if someone doesn't breed true to either Bolivian or Chilean genetics, those genetics will ultimately become so comingled with Peruvian genetics through crossbreedin g to "increase the Peruvian lines" that we will not be able to recapture them should we need or want them in the future. There are excellent quality alpacas of Bolivian and Chilean descent who can be used to maintain those lines. There is obviously no risk of loss of Peruvian genetics since they are the primary focus of most breeding programs; those lines will be maintained over time. However, the same can't be said of the others. Once a line is gone through absorption, it's gone. We can't breed back to "full" anything.I agree with and applaud the breeders who breed COO-blind, looking for the right blend of genetics to give them the qualities they seek. However, I think a few of us need to work on maintaining and improving otherwise "endangered" lines so that they will be available for use in genetically- diverse breeding programs. I know it sounds counter-intuitive to say I think COO is irrelevant but then go on to focus on a particular COO, but because of the rapid absorption of the rarer genetics into the larger Peruvian pool, it feels important to me to make a stand to preserve those rare lines, so they can be used "full strength" as needed or desired. Bringing in a Bolivian line that starts and ends with great-great- great grandsires/ dams is bringing in practically nothing "new" at all, and if genetic diversity IS of importance, then we need to maintain pools of pure Bolivian and Chilean alpacas to balance the preponderance of Peruvian lineage. Probably clear as mud, but it feels important to me to do this. Nobody ever called me practical!
Judith KorffLadySong FarmMusic to Your WalletRandolph, New York 14772Cell: (716) 499-0383
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