Hi Judith,
I'm confused. You first state that COO is "absolutely irrelevant" but then go on to state the importance of preserving Bolivian stock. I see a contradiction - help me understand.
Elden Harms
Token Creek Alpacas
Sun Prairie WI
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From: Judith Korff/Ladysong Farm <judithkorff@
yahoo.com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
ups.comSent: Sun, Nov 22, 2009 6:51 am
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Pet peeve
While I absolutely agree that COO (or COI) should be absolutely irrelevant, I'm also very disturbed that so many great genetics are being lost or diluted beyond recognition simply because of the great American Infatuation with Peruvian alpacas. Even AOA, who has the largest collection of Bolivian genetics in the US, doesn't even bother to advertise or promote them as such. Only Patagonia bothers to extoll the virtues of the Chileans.
For that reason, I've begun to locate and trade my Peruvian stock for full Bolivian genetics and will be spending the next few years working on regaining and strengthening genetics from that country. I'll obviously be working to retain and improve excellence in conformation and fiber, but my focus will be on preventing the loss of those genetic strains. I have some great Peruvian machos whom I've acquired over the past 5 years -- some champions or multiple champions -- who have been or are being swapped for full Boli machos or are being offered for sale to make room for Bolivian stock. Do you know it's almost impossible to find a full Bolivian female that's less than 10 years old? And every full Boli female I've come across, including those I've just swapped for, is - guess what? bred to a Peruvian male! ACK! I feel like I'm taking on some sort of "heritage livestock" quest, but I also feel as though we can't continue to bleed out these great genetics because they weren't shipped through the Peruvian export stations.
Judith Korff
LadySong Farm
Music to Your Wallet
Randolph, New York 14772
Cell: (716) 499-0383
From: Richard & Robin Vasquez <rv@lovethemalpacas. com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sat, November 21, 2009 9:17:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Pet peeve
| So I guess we agree. We don't know if they are Full Peruvian, Full Bolivian or Full Chilean. It is all marketing. I tend to just stick with the facts on proven records and fiber. Give me the facts, histograms and whatever else you have on their ancestors. The more the better. I don't care where people think their ancestors might have come from
We need to talk about that more and get the ancestor thing out of the picture. Again just my thoughts. Robin
Richard and Robin Vasquez
R & R Ranch LLC 325B Denio Avenue
Gilroy,CA 95020 Phone: 408-842-5233/ Cell 408-710-0676/ 710-7911 LTA
--- On Sat, 11/21/09, Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Pet peeve
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 6:12 PM
Yes, that is what they say, and it's certainly true. To what extent, I don't know if we'll ever know. How true the legend or Roger Haldane smuggling Peruvian alpacas into Chile for export to Australia is always a debate.
I do agree, when it comes down to it, it's fleece quality that is most important.
Heather
On Nov 21, 2009, at 5:32 PM, Richard & Robin Vasquez wrote:
| Well let me chime in and stir the pot a bit. I don't know what full Alianza is but if you listen to the people involved in the import process long ago it depended on where it happened to be easier to export at the time. Peruvian alpacas were moved and exported from Bolivia or Chile. Alpacas that were in Bolivia or Chile were transported to Peru and were exported from Peru. I don't think we really know where they are from and not really sure it matters in the long haul. What matters is their fleece quality and hopefully their proven lineage and records. Just my thoughts. Robin
Richard and Robin Vasquez
R & R Ranch LLC 325B Denio Avenue
Gilroy,CA 95020 Phone: 408-842-5233/ Cell 408-710-0676/ 710-7911 LTA |
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