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Wednesday, June 24, 2009

Re: [AlpacaTalk] BEW



A thought on how one might protect themselves...

I mentioned that in our stud service contract we ask the owner of the dam to state that the dam is not related to, nor has any progeny with defects.

There is no reason why you, as a buyer of stud services, could not ask the person selling the breeding to sign a statement that their male has never sired a cria with defects, nor are they aware of any progeny or ancestors having done so,

Full disclosure on the part of both parties involved might be a good thing for all??? If a cria is born with a defect and it turns out that this is not a first for that male, then there could be some serious legal ramifications if the dam owner wanted to go down that path. Balking at signing such an agreement might be a red flag to the stud service buyer.  I would view this as an ounce of prevention being better than a pound of cure and would at least convey how serious you are about keeping defects out of your program/

Laurel

The Shouvlins
Bluebird Hills Farm
Springfield, Ohio
937-206-3936
www.bluebirdhills.com
bluebirdhills@voyager.net


> Because for someone to sit around and chide others for breeding lines
> that they believe or claim to know throws CA, but not educate others
> about those lines is reprehensible.
>
> I do know first hand of one sire that has thrown CA, last year, in
> fact. I do not have that line in my herd, thankfully. And now I know
> that I will never add that line to my breeding program.
>
> Yes, we can look up info on CA, we can learn the science behind it.
> But I cannot imagine a way to learn what lines have thrown CA,
> certainly no one registers CA crias, they rarely live. I doubt if
> they'd be registered even if they did have a partial and did survive.
> And certainly that info is not recorded at ARI.
>
> So how are we to know about CA lines in alpacas? Are big farms A, B,
> and C going to tell us about the CA crias from their sires?
>
> It seems that those with the info ought to share it. Not doing so is
> as negligent as breeding to those lines not knowing.
>
> Heather
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2009, at 12:20 AM, J Guerin wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> And Heather, I can just imagine the hell you would raise if one of
>> YOUR studs were named. True or false?
>>
>> So, what makes you think some one should go out on a limb to name
>> names?
>>
>> > I find the refusal to identify those sires at the least, annoying,
>> and probably more like irresponsible.
>> Heather>
>>
>> I have a BEW, she has blue eyes, and is solid white. Very fine
>> fiber. She will NEVER be bred. Her dam very likely will NEVER be
>> bred, as she carries the BEW gene. I know the stud she was bred to
>> at North Americas largest alpaca Mill. For my $65,000 I paid to the
>> Mill, for four bred females, one had a female cria at side, I have
>> two that I can breed. One of those four died.
>>
>> Jim Guerin
>> Jimmini Farm
>> Yelm, WA

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