RE: [AlpacaTalk] Dog Attack, any advice on Suri alpacas as replacements?
Hi Heather..
Well, a good (phenotypically correct) huacaya from suris back in the
pedigree that someone wants to sell me, I'll gladly take. Their loss from
ignorance can become our gain. What they fail to comprehend is that a
huacaya from two suris MUST be a genetically pure huacaya and can NEVER
throw a suri, because in order to get it you must have inherited only the
recessive "s" gene in the following equation: Ss x Ss = ss. ( where S is
for suri, the dominant gene, and s is for huacaya, the recessive gene.)
. And, in our rather tightly bred national herd, where we supposedly must
not line breed, here is a new line, unrelated to the other huacayas..so a
real boon to the average alpaca farmer seeking genetic diversity. Of
course, that is based on it being a phenotypically excellent animal in the
first place.
However, with Suris.it is not the same. Because that is the dominant gene
of the pair...for every suri to suri breeding where the suris involved are
heterozygous.
are really "F-1" animals.heterozygou
matings will in theory be 3 animals that appear suri of which one is a pure
suri (homozygous suri (Ss x Ss = SS) while the other two are going to be Ss
x Ss = Ss and that 4th or last one is your huacaya (Ss x Ss = ss)
So the problem is those two animals in the middle, they are called "F2's"
and they appear suri but have a 1 in 4 chance of throwing a huacaya if bred
to another one like them, another heterozygous suri.
This is the full set of information which in theory explains our suri
genetics. Of course, in reality there' are always a few deviations from the
theories, and there is also a margin of error. We have reports of animals
which have intermediate fleeces between suri and huacaya, the so called
"chili" animals with their crimpy suri locks or their silky, shiny twisted
huacaya locks that are incorrect for either type.but are, nonetheless, most
interesting to our hand spinners!
Allison
From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Behalf Of Heather Zeleny
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:30 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Dog Attack, any advice on Suri alpacas as
replacements?
The suri/huacaya mix is not an easy thing. There is stigma on both
sides of the issue.
I have been told in an offer for a trade, that a 1st place ribbon
winner at a level 5 show, huacaya, was not something a particular
breeder wanted in their breeding program. Specifically, the suri 4
generations back in the pedigree. This female is extremely dense,
fine good bone density, huge topknot... But no dice. So, suri in a
huacaya pedigree is really not well accepted any more than huacaya
offspring in a suri line.
Heather
On May 8, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Allison Moss-Fritch wrote:
>
>
> Hi Wendy,
>
> We have both suris and huacayas and your question brings up some
> interesting
> factors. We like them both..but you just have to understand a few
> things
> about each type to get the best values.
>
> It is relatively "OK" to have a huacaya from two suris. I have a Color
> Champion Gray huacaya girl, Pandora, who is in our foundation herd
> who is
> such an alpaca. Her fleece is still absolutely consistently "zipper"
> crimped with a long staple and tiny bundles.just want you want;
> great luster
> and very fine. So the girl overall, her conformation and fleece,
> are top
> notch. If I were willing to part with her, I would disclose her
> parentage.and I'd have no problem selling her for a lot of money,
> because
> she is worth every bit of it. However, I would not sell her for any
> reasonable sum.
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