[AlpacaTalk] Thought I would likr to share this with you, now Pet Peeves
Heather:
It does seem that you came across again with your usual forthright
communication style that many find offensive (I'm often accused of being a
bit too blunt as well). I did a little research, and here is what I found.
1) ICANN says that "stardustalpacas.
Not to anyone. (No history is available, so I can't tell if it ever was
registered.)
2) AOBA has a farm name search feature, and according to that search
neither "stardust", "stardust alpacas", "stardustalpacas"
alpacas" is a registered AOBA farm. There is a Star Dust Ranch in Champlin,
MN.
3) I tried to check with ARI but their offices are already closed and I
couldn't find a farm name search feature on their site. In any case, there
may be many farm names that have "star dust" as part of their name, so it is
completely reasonable that other farms would have similar breeder IDs to
what you say your sister reserved. Our farm name has the word "fleece" in
it - should we try to bar all other farms from referring to fleece?
4) AlpacaNation doesn't show any farms with Stardust or "Star Dust" as
the start of their farm name.
5) As a final result I did a web search for "stardust alpacas". I
found
a. There is a stardust-alpacas.
indicate a farm name of Stardust Alpacas but has no links to AOBA, ARI, or
any affiliate.
b. There are a lot of alpacas that have the word "stardust" in their
name.
c. There is a Stephanie Zeleny who posted a tiny "hello" post on an
Australian alpaca web site in July, 2007, and has "Stardust Alpacas" and
"Creswell, OR" in her signature line. (This link was well into page 2 of
the search results with the search engine I used - not an obvious match.)
If I were starting a new farm today none of the normal ways of checking for
a similar name would seem to indicate any collision if I chose Stardust
Alpacas, Star Dust Alpacas, or anything like that other than to the OH farm.
As far as I can tell your sister may have accidently copied the name of the
alpaca farm in OH. I think in this case your pet peeve is misplaced.
Certainly someone who takes exactly the same name as an existing farm (where
that farm name can easily be found using the above checks) should know
better, but you can't fault someone for taking a name they had no way to
know that someone else thought they had.
Don Stanwyck
Carnation, WA
p.s., I think it would behoove both of us to take a few courses in
netiquette.
From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Behalf Of Heather Zeleny
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 3:07 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Thought I would likr to share this with you, now
Pet Peeves
Sigh. Whatever.
Another pet peeve is when someone tells me that what I know as fact
is not true. Like knowing for fact that my sister reserved the
breeder ID "Stardust" in 2004, and that she is an AOBA member, which
Mike Sias is not as of this date. And that in 2004 she registered
"stardustalpacas.
Buh-bye then, Mike. No, actually I did not expect an apology. It was
clear that you had no regard for group rules and nettiquette.
If I'm crazy because I know what I know and I expect people to
identify themselves on the group, and expect people to follow the
rules that they've requested, so be it.
Signed,
Heather "Crazy" Zeleny
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