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Thursday, January 08, 2009

[AlpacaTalk] Re: silver spot vs white spot

Hi,
I have another question in regards to spots on animals. What about the
spots you don't see, say for example on the gums or the dental pad does
anyone think these are the same as spots in there fleece? I shear alot
of animals and see spots in armpits both on front legs and underneath
the rear legs do these count as spots? Many darker animals have these
spots under their pits!
I did have someone tell me that they thought the spots under their pits
where the same Vicunia markings as the lighter animals.
Any ideas?
Mary Jane Fox
Up-Close-and-Personal-Alpaca-Shearing
Kirtland, OH
216-272-8887
--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Katy Spears" <alpacas@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Shari,
>
> When a spot appears on an alpaca that has not previously been there,
> especially on the neck, consider that this MAY have come from an
> injury, skin issue, or something other than a genetic color spot.
> Males often "fight" and play and bite each other on the neck in their
> alpaca games. Fighting teeth (or not) can make a bite that the owner
> does not know about because it is way under a lot of fiber. Later the
> fiber from that spot MAY lack pigment as it grows out due to the
> injury. I have no way of determining if this is what happened to your
> male, but it is something to consider as a possibility. May be an
> environmental occurrence rather than a genetic one.
>
> But let's say it IS a genetic thing. That your male was born with a
> white spot. The reason that people care about this is because it means
> he is carrying the white spotting gene. If an animal carrying the
> white spotting gene is bred with another animal carrying the white
> spotting gene, you have a chance of creating a blue-eyed white alpaca.
> Since this is not really a desired outcome, some people will shy away
> from this. BUT all you have to do is breed an alpaca with the white
> spotting gene to solid colored alpacas with no spots and you will be
> fine, shouldn't have blue eyed whites.
>
> I am no expert on this, just sharing what I learned from Andy
> Merriweather at a recent seminar of his. And he is an expert on this.
> Here's a post I wrote on the White Spotting Gene after attending his
> class: http://www.alpacafarmgirl.com/farmbusiness/?p=266
>
> This spot doesn't have to affect the breeding career of your male.
>
> Regards,
> Katy
>
> Katy Spears
> Fairhope Alpacas
> Alpaca Farmgirl
> www.alpacafarmgirl.com
>
>
> --- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, "carlssc" carlssc@ wrote:
> >
> > I have a TB boy that has one silver spot at the base of his neck at
> > his shoulders. it is definitely silver and not white. color checked
it
> > with black and white paper as well as a fleece color chart. his sire
> > is light fawn. his mother is DB with no white. his full brother is
> > medium fawn with a black spot in the same exact place. per ARI color
> > patterns he is registered as "solid true black". but obviously to be
> > honest i can't say he doesn't have another color on his body. what
if
> > any impact does this have on him as a breeding male?
> >
> > Shari Carlson
> > Shai-J Criations, LLC
> > 153 Meetinghouse Lane
> > Ledyard, CT 06339
> > www.alpacastreet.com/shaij_criations.asp
> >
>

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