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Tuesday, November 11, 2008

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re:More on show fees

Hey Michele,

What a cool show name! Bare Naked! Love it!
Libby

Libby Forstner
Magical Farms, Inc.
Litchfield Ohio
(330)667-3233

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HI Heather:

It's interesting to see a different perspective about the stalling. I
wasn't surprised at the cost of stalling at Nationals. East Coast stalling
and shows I think is generally much more expensive than west coast. The
cost for stalling at nationals puts it at the higher end of stalling for
the East Coast. We spend on average $200 on stalls out here. It's always
great when a show comes in with a lower rate. Virginia had a lower rate of
$75 a stall, but they were in a horse barn not in the venue itself. The
Empire, Mapaca, Sepa, Paoba, NJ, Maba, and I believe the new england
states all have high fees - within the 150-250 a stall. Venues here
(except for the summer months) have to be inside, which costs for the
facility, stalls, and from what I understand the worst cost now is
bedding. Sod has gotten so expensive that some places have had to switch
to straw or cardboard bedding. Mapaca publishes what they spend on sod and
panels, and it's astronomical. And I
think that Nationals are somewhat larger than Mapaca.

I so wish there could be a cheaper system, I too think more people would
come. It costs a lot of money for the farms to do shows now, between
transporting (yes gas has dropped - but for how long). hotel expenses,
food, stalling and registration.

I find myself doing a lot more mail in fleece shows this year then I used
to, because of the cost. Is your show doing Mail in? you probably could
get a bit more revenue from that.

Also - just a thought for your show - we have 2 summer shows out here in
NY which are considerably cheaper - and much more fun then the big shows.
they are both in July - and it's only shorn competitions and fleece. And
everyone ends up doing performance classes, and it's a lot of fun. the
breeders have a great time, and it's really good for new breeders - and
old breeders too! stalling is inexpensive because it's outside under
tents, and they keep the registration inexpensive too. There is one in NJ
called Bare Naked. in May or June. You might want to consider doing that
for your show.

Michele Armour
Rosehaven Alpacas
Callicoon, NY

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