Re: [AlpacaTalk] Let them eat cake.Libby responds
Hello Heather,
Gosh, and I didn't even call you a member of the "old girl's club, etc.
etc." Imagine your reaction if I had done that! (smile)
Not sure what the lifetime membership fee was but you can't buy it
anymore. It was offered only to those in the industry at that time when
it was offered and there are only a handful of members because there
weren't many members at that time. (No, we aren't life time members).
Please let me quote. You said: "Oh yes, I Love Alpacas is the brainchild
of the leader of the old boy's club." I think you meant that to be pretty
insulting based on that and the rest of your post and I think my reaction
was pretty mild. Had I done that to you, I suspect you'd have said more
than I did.
Glad to hear about Gary's selling success. It's been a tough year for
everyone!
I'm not going to get into a mud-slinging contest with you Heather. Been
there, done that.
I'll try one more time since I wasn't clear enough for the benefit of new
people. My point was that if you don't like the price tag for a
particular coop, do it yourself. I do not mean that to be insulting and I
believe you know that but just in case, I'll try again...What I mean is
that you can have 200 breeders at $500 each or 300 breeder's at $200 or
whatever combination you want at whatever marketing budget you want if you
think AOBA or ILA or something else is unfair. The more advertising, the
better. Jerry's goal was to get more marketing dollars into the industry
for the benefit of everyone and of course, his goal was to help those in
the coop. Many people, even those not in I Love Alpacas, have sold as a
result of this coop and that is a good thing! We don't begrudge anyone's
success and hope that you do your own marketing coop and that it works!
That would be terrific. It does take hard work but it's very possible to
do! I'm sure Jerry would be happy to help you set up such a program if
you have an interest.
Good luck,
Libby
Libby Forstner
Magical Farms, Inc.
Litchfield Ohio
(330)667-3233
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Let them eat cake.Libby responds
Hi Libby,
I'm terribly sorry if you felt my post was unfair. And in fact, I
barely spoke about ILA at all. By the way, I said "Old Boy's Club", not
"Good Ol Boys". Two entirely different concepts.
And Libby, it's very easy to say, "If you think it's too expensive,
don't complain about it, set up your own system". Ah yes, very easy to
do if you think $5k is a bargain. Let them eat cake? Yes, I'd much
rather complain than have more money than 95% of the rest of us...
Libby, those comments are extremely insulting.
If all of these $1500 and $5k PER YEAR programs are within one's
budget, I guess there is no problem. But if you add up all of those
fees, just participation in them can be 100% of some people's annual
GROSS income! And you choose to characterise me as unfair, because I
feel that the pricing scheme set up by those who are already very very
rich, is unfair? Oh that Heather, she's just a complainer. It's exactly
like telling sweatshop workers or migrant farm workers they can just
get another job. They don't have just sit around and complain.
Your condescending attitude toward "the rest of us" would be laughable
if it weren't so insulting. I remember last year when you tried to
convince me that the "Benefactor" program at AOBA was made up of
"generous" souls. When in fact, it is a quid pro quo agreement. THEY
get the newest leads, at the lowest price. THEY get the membership
directory in electronic form, so they don't have to pay for eblasts.
THEY get:
2009 INDUSTRY BENEFACTOR PROGRAM *
Gold Benefactor $1,500 Annually*
Platinum Benefactor $5,000 Annually*
Alpacas Magazine Subscription
Use of appropriate Annual Benefactor Logo Design
Appropriate Benefactor Notation in Membership Directory
Annual Recognition Award with appropriate logo for Display at Farm
Recognition on AlpacaOwners.
Recognition at National Conferences as a Benefactor
Alpacas Magazine Industry Benefactor Recognition Spotlight listing in
Winter Issue
Annual Excel Spreadsheet of Membership Database (2nd Quarter and 4th
Quarter) *Gold*
Excel Spreadsheet of Membership Database Updated Quarterly *Platinum*
Option to purchase leads after 30 days at $0.20 cents per lead. Leads
produced during January are available on March 1 and so on *Platinum*
Listing In Every Issue of Alpacas Magazines as Platinum Benefactor (for
current calendar year as a Benefactor) *Platinum*
Honorary Seating at AOBA Annual Meeting and Auction
Annual Platinum Benefactor Collectable Display Award
Permanent Listing on Platinum Benefactor Plaque at AOBA Headquarters
for each calendar year of participation
* Must be Farm Member to Participate
There used to be a Lifetime membership at AOBA, I think it was $5k but
I'm not really sure so don't attack me if this figure is incorrect.
Now, it's $5k every year.
On Nov 11, 2008, at 6:38 AM, libby@alpacafarm.
> Hello Gary,
>
> Heather is blatantly unfair with this post. I guess the "good old
> boy" is
> Jerry, my husband.
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