RE: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Beet Pulp
Hi Deb,
Steve or Ruthanne will probably comment, but I would be very concerned about
feeding beet pulp to alpacas without soaking it first. Try soaking a sample
and you will see how much it swells up when water has been added. I think
it could be quite harmful to your alpacas to have their feed swell up so
much after they eat it.
I realise that you've been feeding it without soaking for years with no
problems. Feeding such a small quantity (1/8 cup) may be the reason you've
had no problems.
Everyone should be careful to not leave un-soaked beet pulp or pellets where
alpacas can get into it.
All the best,
Chuck Rademacher
Kaipara Pines Alpaca Stud
2247 South Head Road, RD 1
Helensville, New Zealand 0874
Phone: 09-420-2133 Mobile: 027-204-9406
www.alpacafarm.
-----Original Message-----
From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Behalf Of DEBORAH WEIDEMAN
Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2008 7:52 a.m.
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Beet Pulp
I've used beet pulp(BP) for a few yrs.now.....
some molasses and have never soaked it. The BP is mixed directly into the
pellets, so that each serving probably gets about 1/8 cup of dried shredded
BP. However, w/ colder weather now, I will consider the warm water soaking,
but what a hassle hauling hot water from the house. Has anyone tried the
"water bucket HEATERS"?? (not just the "de-icers"). I think they are
suppose to actually "heat" the water not just keep it from freezing??
Another question I have is, if molasses is used in other ruminant feeds,
like for cattle, sheep....why is it unhealthy for alpacas? Of course,
anything in excess can be a no-no, but is there really that much molasses in
beet pulp?? As you can probably already figure out, the beet pulp I get
locally & readily, HAS molasses in it....should I discontinue feeding it??
Deb Weideman -- Just Hmmmin' Along
Eagle Wing Acres,LLC
www.alpacasofeaglew
Pray for our Nation....God answers "knee"mail
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From: Allison Moss-Fritch <aemoss17@comcast.
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2008 3:01:03 PM
Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Beet Pulp
Hi List,
Steve Hull says that Beet pulp is great stuff..however, he and Dr. Ruth
both
warn against using molasses added products on alpacas who don't digest the
sugar like a horse would. So.for the pacas.plain beet pulp, added slowly
to
the diet as Laurel reminds us..is the very best way to use this nice
stuff!
Allison Moss-Fritch
New Moon Alpacas
Santa Clara, CA
From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@
Behalf Of BaileysFjords@ aol.com
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 7:57 AM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Beet Pulp
Hello,
We use beet pulp daily for our aged Fjord stallion who has had problems
over
the last couple of years keeping weight on.? We have had so much success
with this that we now supplement our sheep and last year, our Angora goats
(before I sold the herd of goats), with it during the winter.? We also use
beet pulp mash for our ewes during their last days of pregnancy and right
after labor to help warm them up quickly.?
We use however much beet pulp we have designated per animal-making sure it
is the kind that has molasses added-then cover it with extremely hot water
to where one can see the water barely covering the beet pulp.? We stir it
a
few times and let it sit for at least 1/2 hour to hour, then top dress it
with whatever grain is being fed to each animal.? For example, with our
aged
stallion and the ewes, they would get a cup of grain, not pellets, plus
some
broken up alfafa cubes-just a few, for taste.? Our stallion this year
cannot
eat?the cubes well, so we went to an alfafa powder.? We turn the bucket
over
into the feed pan so the grain and alfafa is on the bottom of the feed
pan.
We have never had any animal turn their noses up and the pans are empty
right away.? Hope this helps!? We are convinced our stallion would not be
with us today without the beet pulp because he just was not interested in
any of the "normal" senior diets.? Our sheep LOVE it.
Bailey's
White Cloud, MI
231-225-8855
spinner@wildblue. net <mailto:spinner% 40wildblue. net>
www.thebaileystore. info
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