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Tuesday, November 11, 2008

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Let them eat cake.Libby responds

Hello Gary,

Heather is blatantly unfair with this post. I guess the "good old boy" is
Jerry, my husband. Gary, if you want to know the facts and any updates,
contact Jerry at jerry@alpacafarm.com. I Love Alpacas is expensive but so
are the ads and the number of participants is kept to 100 spread acrosss
the country to help compensate for the amount paid. If someone doesn't
like the concept, they are welcome to create their own marketing program,
charge less and donate their time...but I guess complaining about what
others are doing is just easier than to set up your own program. I
believe most of us would agree that the more advertising there is, the
better off we all are!

Regardless, Jerry can explain how it works better than I can and he would
be happy to speak with you.

Libby Forstner
Magical Farms, Inc.
Litchfield Ohio
(330)667-3233

Libby Forstner
Magical Farms, Inc.
Litchfield Ohio
(330)667-3233

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Let them eat cake.

Oh yes, I love alpacas is the brainchild of the leader of the old boy's
club. If you don't have $5k in addition to participating in the FRG and
Herdsire edition of Alpacas Magazine, forget it. And if you don't do
the FRG, you have to wait 45 days or something to buy leads at 3 times
the price that the breeders with deep pockets have to pay. That is the
most regressive pricing scheme, it really makes me bitter and angry.
Make the poor people pay 3 or 4 times as much as the rich guys! Ya!

To us little guys, it looks like "they" just want all the money and all
the business. So, I choose to participate in a different playground. I
do business with small, local breeders. I have contacts and
acquaintances across the country, and have actually done some business
cross-country, now that I think of it. :) And I prefer it that way.
Every animal I've sold is loved by its new family, as much as I've
loved them. I am so glad they weren't bought by some mega-farm where
they're identified by a number tag.

I haven't had much luck selling on AlpacaNation, I believe that they
could surely lower their rates for farm accounts by now. They rake in
so much money from all of those banner ads with weekly and monthly
rotations, and those ads are not cheap, even the cheap ones! I don't
know if AlpacaStreet is producing any better results. The best response
I get is from AlpacaMarket yahoo group. And that's free!

I keep saying the economy has got to improve at some point. :) Doesn't
it? And we can be sure that we will get new breeders thanks to
increased exposure from free things like the WSJ article.

Heather

On Nov 10, 2008, at 6:03 PM, Gary & Maryann Simpson wrote:

> Heather:
>
> Are you a member of I Love Alpacas?
> I called & it's like $5,000 a year. Is anybody else here on there?
> I was wondering if the benefit was worth the money.
> Also is anybody having any luck with Alpaca Street?
> I see a little traffic from there, but not that much.
> I'm less than a year into this, but I have some opinions.
> The main opinion is that the growth in the industry is going to
> come from new people, not existing farms.
> So marketing most anything except breedings to existing farms is
> not very effective.
>
> I have some ideas that I would like to get some feedback on, but
> would like to hear from some of the people here first on the above.
> Thanks,
> Gary Simpson

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