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Tuesday, February 19, 2008

Re: [AlpacaTalk] RE: [alpacapolitics] Re: Romanik v. AOBA

Interesting...when I read this email in gmail, the sponsored link at the top
of the page was "Low cost manure spreaders".

On Feb 19, 2008 12:11 PM, Floyd Romanik <floyd@indiansummeralpacas.com>
wrote:

> Libby,
>
> Our 18-year old son was watching TV one night and a question came up on a
> show that he shared with us. It involved explaining the difference between
> ethical verses moral. The show gave the example of a married man who was
> presented with the opportunity of having an affair. The character was
> asked
> what the ethical man would do. The character replied, the ethical man
> knows
> that having an affair is wrong but does it anyway. Then the character was
> asked what the moral man would do. The reply was, the moral man doesn't do
> it.
>
> Libby you were also an Intervener. While you were an Intervener you were
> also ARI president. Sometime in about December of 2003 you as ARI
> president
> signed a Confidentiality agreement which settled the ARI lawsuit that was
> filed against Mary Reed who was an ARI Director at the time. If we
> understand correctly, the reason for the lawsuit was that Mary Reed
> reportedly failed to divulge a business relationship while voting on an
> ARI
> matter which created a Conflict of Interest.
>
> What bothers us and others is that you broke that Confidentiality
> agreement
> with ARI in order to use it for your own personal benefit. You used it in
> your Land O lakes case. Your attorney argued that ARI's president (you)
> signed the agreement with Reed and that somehow you Libby Forstner in your
> private capacity were allowed to still use it? You used it to further the
> interests of your farm of which you're majority owner. In essence ARI says
> that while they did not give you permission to break that Confidentiality
> agreement, they can't take any action against you since you're no longer a
> sitting Board member. It's certainly ARI's right to decide to not take any
> action at all against you.
>
> We're not getting into all the allegations that fly around between you,
> Reed, Stachowski and your farms. I'm trying to understand how you as
> former
> ARI President had the right to divulge a confidentiality agreement to
> anyone
> including your husband, farm, and others you represented in the LOL case.
> You certainly know that your actions were wrong.. You were after all an
> Intervener.
>
> Like you use to say as an Intervener, all it takes for self-dealing to
> prevail on our industry boards is for good people to do nothing... even if
> that action is to simply ask questions... It was sound advice then and is
> to this day.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Floyd and Ana Romanik
> Indian Summer Alpacas
> Chepachet, Rhode Island
> Phone: (401) 568-7759
>
> _____
>
> From: alpacapolitics@yahoogroups.com <alpacapolitics%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> alpacapolitics@yahoogroups.com <alpacapolitics%40yahoogroups.com>]
> On Behalf Of libby@alpacafarm.com <libby%40alpacafarm.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 8:40 AM
> To: alpacapolitics@yahoogroups.com <alpacapolitics%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [alpacapolitics] Re: Romanik v. AOBA
>
> Just because it happened then, doesn't mean it is happening now. Facts and
> proof are good things to insist on before libeling good people. A couple
> people who were intervenors are on the Board now and their positions about
> Boards overstepping authority are well documented. Please don't paint
> everyone with a single brush.
>
> Libby
>
> Libby Forstner
> Magical Farms
>
> Stardust Alpacas
> <stardustalpacas@
> yahoo.com> To
> Sent by: alpacapolitics@ <mailto:alpacapolitics%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com
> alpacapolitics@ya cc
> hoogroups.com
> Subject
> Re: [alpacapolitics] Re: Romanik v.
> 02/16/2008 11:42 AOBA
> PM
>
> Please respond to
> alpacapolitics@ya
> hoogroups.com
>
> Connie,
>
> You have a very different idea of what goes on with
> politics than I do. Secret laws are slipped in at the
> last second and there are many lobbyists working,
> bribing and blackmailing to make things happen for
> their industries. There are tons of agendas and lots
> of nasty backstabbing people in Washington, along with
> murders, kidnappings and tons of other things we never
> hear about.
>
> Presidents are put in power who didn't truly win and
> many things including wars are voted on without the
> normal citizen's best interest at heart.
>
> There are these same people in corporate America. Some
> go to jail. There are scandals like Enron. There are
> companies like Microsoft working for world domination
> in computers.
>
> AOBA afterall, had those "Interveners" because the BOD
> was deciding things that were not legal to decide
> without a vote from the membership. Who says that
> can't happen again and isn't now? What about the for
> profit subsidiary? Me thinks that was a biggie that
> should have been discussed before implementing.
>
> Catch a clue.
>
> --- Connie Headrick Crawford <connie111@yahoo.
> <mailto:connie111%40yahoo.com> com>
> wrote:
>
> > REALLY! REALLY!
> >
> > You want every single thing put to a vote, when
> > there are actually
> > people slamming the greatest coup of all.. .THE ROSE
> > PARADE!
> >
> > Just please, give me just one break from you
> > unintelligable rantings!
> >
> > You simply have no idea how an organization works.
> >
> > Think of it this way:
> >
> > You elect your congress person to send them to
> > Washington to
> > represent you. Do they ask you how you want them to
> > vote on every
> > single issue? Not a Chance of that every happening.
> > . .yet, they do
> > the best they can for you!
> >
> > Does Bush call or write you to see how you feel on
> > every bill he is
> > about to sign to see how you feel about it?
> >
> > Does the Mayor of your town call you before he makes
> > a decision?
> >
> > NO! Because those people, hopefully, have your best
> > interest at
> > heart, for you, and more importantly the area you
> > live in.
> >
> > Can you call your mayor, your congressmen, your city
> > council member,
> > your State and Federal Representatives?
> >
> > YUP!
> >
> > SAME HERE!
> >
> > You have a vote and you have a right to call any
> > board member and
> > tell them how you feel about anything. And they
> > will listen and
> > certainly take into consideration what your concerns
> > are. They will
> > factor in your concerns, and those of all the
> > others, and make the
> > best decision that they can. It won't always be the
> > decision you
> > want, but your opinion and voice will be heard.
> >
> > I simply don't see anything wrong in that. That is
> > the way democracy
> > works, and it also works very well within the inner
> > workings of AOBA!
> >
> > When you have a concern or a problem with any issue,
> > CALL one of the
> > Board Members. They will listen, they may even try
> > to explain things
> > you don't know. But if you don't call, you simply
> > have nothing to
> > ever complain about.
> >
> > Love,
> > Connie
> >
> >
> >
>
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