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Wednesday, January 09, 2008

Re: [AlpacaTalk] AlpacaTalk



Heather,

Yes, Rick does enforce the rules of Alpacasite. I believe you said that
you are already on moderate status on Alpacasite?

Ah, yes, I've been waiting for this. A bit of a threat? Heather, it
probably feels like the shots are coming at you because you are the one
making up things, accusations and innuendoes and so people like me have
responded to you and challenged you to provide the proof to back up what
you accuse. If you were to stop making up things about other people.
people like me would stop confronting you. Your last post is a great
example....full of accusations and innuendoes without one shred of proof.
If you stopped making up things without proof, and waited for proof or
facts before commenting or accusing or making nasty innuendoes, I would
LOVE it if that were to happen. It would be wonderful if you were to find
out all the facts and then comment and not assume, not accuse or make
innuendoes and then have to admit later that you "have no proof." That
would be great. Imagine how wonderful this site would be?

If you were to ban someone like me for daring to challenge what you said
because I asked you for proof behind your accusations and innuendoes, and
for calling a lie a lie, you would be accused of trying to silence me just
because I dared to ask you for proof. You would be violating your own
rules and would look like you were afraid of the truth coming out.

So far, you have adhered to your own rules. I give you FULL credit for
this. Question is...will it continue??

When you are ready to stop accusing people of wrongdoing with no proof, I'm
ready to shut up!! Nothing I'd love more.

Libby

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Alpacasite is very tightly controlled by Rick horn, and anything said
there that does not comply with his opinion (or those controlling him)
are quickly quashed. If Rick Horn were running this group, many people
would have had their membership edited so they could no longer post, or
banned completely. You may note the very critical posts about ME on
this group. If a group of people posted that way about Rick Horn, they
would be silenced in no time and those posts removed. I've seen it
happen too many times to count. While I do think the posts are becoming
potshots pointed at me, I am not banning or editing anyone, although I
think that time may sadly be coming.

No, this group treats members as adults and allows them to speak their
mind. And yes, we do have a lot of discussion on alpaca health and
husbandry. In fact, that is what most of the discussion is about, and
what to do with your fleece once it's off the animal.

If you want a group where you are free to ask real questions, this is
the group for you.

Heather

On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:11 AM, libby@alpacafarm.com wrote:

>
>
> Hello Aileen,
>
> I understand and sympathize with your confusion. Yes, you probably
> have
> the wrong site. You probably want Alpacasite which is dedicated to
> animal
> care, etc. etc. Politics are pretty quickly moved off Alpacasite. This
> site Alpaca Talk was set up by Heather as moderator to use as she
> sees fit
> and she permits anything to be said, whether or not it's true, and
> that
> forces people to either accept what she says or challenge
> it;..resulting in
> pretty frustrating conversations for all. I've chosen to challenge her
> rather than just let unsubstantiated comments sit out there for new
> people
> to be confused by.
>
> So, in all honesty, you probably want Alpacasite. It's a terrific
> site run
> by Rick Horn. Nothing is perfect but I think it's more of what you are
> looking for re: alpaca health, etc., etc. There's also a marketing
> site
> (Erin McCarthy, moderator) and a politics site, although I suspect
> you want
> to stay away from the politics site as well as it's not moderated.
>
> Good luck and enjoy!!
>
> Libby
>
> Libby Forstner
> Magical Farms

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