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Wednesday, January 09, 2008

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Let's recognize Heather's Shenanigans



Hello Aileen,

I understand and sympathize with your confusion. Yes, you probably have
the wrong site. You probably want Alpacasite which is dedicated to animal
care, etc. etc. Politics are pretty quickly moved off Alpacasite. This
site Alpaca Talk was set up by Heather as moderator to use as she sees fit
and she permits anything to be said, whether or not it's true, and that
forces people to either accept what she says or challenge it;..resulting in
pretty frustrating conversations for all. I've chosen to challenge her
rather than just let unsubstantiated comments sit out there for new people
to be confused by.

So, in all honesty, you probably want Alpacasite. It's a terrific site run
by Rick Horn. Nothing is perfect but I think it's more of what you are
looking for re: alpaca health, etc., etc. There's also a marketing site
(Erin McCarthy, moderator) and a politics site, although I suspect you want
to stay away from the politics site as well as it's not moderated.

Good luck and enjoy!!

Libby

Libby Forstner
Magical Farms

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Hello all-I must say, I am brand new to this group and am completly
bewildered and confused. Why is all of this going on out in the public for
many people to read. I thought this group was for people who were
interested in learning more about the Alpaca business. Am I mistaken? Maybe
I joined the wrong group. Aileen - Oregon

Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com> wrote: Ok Libby, let's not
do that. You really don't have to right out lie.
You can see very well I have never made up stories. Are the things I
said about specific people not true? I have more info, I can go on. But
right now I have to go out and do chores.

I won't follow you down the road you're of name calling. I know what I
know and while I can't see the future, that is true, I can see what
might very well happen, and the AOBA membership deserves more control!
End of story!

Best regards,
Heather

On Jan 8, 2008, at 9:10 AM, libby@alpacafarm.com wrote:

>
>
> Heather,
>
> You admitted to saying things and making up stories when you had no
> proof.
> You admitted it for all to see. Please re-read your own posts. You
> link
> small farms to disaster (to try to scare people?) simply because AOBA
> is
> trying to reduce AOBA's tax liability. You have no proof of anything
> wrong
> yet you talk of stink and disaster and corruption and then you try to
> scare
> small farms for no good reason.
>
> I don't think you have respect for anyone...certainly not me based on
> your
> posts.
>
> Not everyone is corrupt. That is your negative take on people and
> things.
> I would agree that none of us are perfect, certainly not me.
>
> Congratulations....out of thousands of alpaca breeders, you've found
> a few
> that aren't honest. So what?
>
> Think about it and please leave at least some volunteers in peace.
>
> I am now going to take my own advice.
>
> Libby
> Libby Forstner
> Magical Farms

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