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Tuesday, November 20, 2007

Re: [AlpacaTalk] New cria not quite right

I have a rejected cria that I am hand rearing. Hope this doesn't mean
that Hayley will likely reject her next cria too?!?!?! I am feeding
goats milk in 50/50 ratio of semi-skimmed and full cream, gradually
moving up to 250ml each feed from about 100ml to start with. At first 5
feeds a day (3 hourly) starting at 7am and ending at 7pm. Now at 10
weeks old, she is down to 4 feeds (4 hourly), which gives me more time
for other things! Sunday (cria's name), has had no problems whatever
with digestion of goats milk and is doing really well. The hardest
thing is not petting or over-familiarising her with me as a
person/alpaca. I had to watch her lonely little self walk around and
try to find out who she belonged to, and where she fitted in the herd.
Her dam now keeps her company, but that's it. I told her that she
belonged to everyone, and no one. She is now firmly established and
seems to know who are her mates and who isn't and has a lovely solid
character. As you can imagine, I am rather fond of her and I still find
it difficult to remind myself, 'No Cuddling ... None!' although it is
getting easier.

Good luck with the feeding regime. Hope the info on goats milk helps.
Best Wishes
Amanda Poyner
Barton Alpacas

Sheri Hewitt wrote:
>
> You could use 24 oz of goat milk, 4 oz whipping
> cream and 4 oz organic vanilla yogurt. They like
> this mix and it helps them gain weight. We nursed
> a cria for 5 mo on this mix. Use a Pritchard
> nipple and nursing should be a breeze.
>
> Sheri Hewitt
> Experience Alpacas!
> Woodland Meadows, llc
> 31542 Camas Swale Rd.
> Creswell, OR 97426
> www.woodlandmeadows.com
> 541-895-0964 or cell 541-912-0081
>
> At 08:32 AM 11/19/2007, you wrote:
>
> >Thank you for all of your advice. She has
> >greatly improved today and I do not think she
> >will have any further complications. We brought
> >the dam over this morning and she still showed
> >no interest in her. This is the second cria she
> >has orphaned with the last delivery being
> >without complications. Do you know of a bottle
> >feeding schedule for crias using fresh goats milk?
> >
> >----- Original Message ----
> >From: Heather Zeleny
> ><<mailto:alpacatalk%40westwindalpacas.com>alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com
> <mailto:alpacatalk%40westwindalpacas.com>>
> >To:
> ><mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com>AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com>;
> ><mailto:tlowrimore%40yahoo.com>tlowrimore@yahoo.com
> <mailto:tlowrimore%40yahoo.com>
> >Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 4:55:28 PM
> >Subject: [AlpacaTalk] New cria not quite right
> >
> >Hi Kristen,
> >I'm sorry your new cria doesn't seem right. Can you tell me what she's
> >doing, how she's behaving? Often deliveries at night are dystocias, and
> >also the crias can be compromised. You have 24 hours to make sure she
> >gets as much colostrum as possible, so try to make sure she's nursing
> >frequently. And, I don't know what your weather is like right now, but
> >it is imperative to make sure the cria is warm. We had a cria born a
> >month or two ago early in the morning. We were having some very cold
> >winds at the time, and it took all day to get her temp up after we
> >finally got her dry. After she warmed up, she appeared to be pretty
> >normal the next day. We kept a cria coat on her for a week at night,
> >because she was a bit compromised after her birth... She wasn't
> >discovered until around 10am when I was getting home from work as a
> >baker. Cria's temps should be between 100-102º.
> >
> >So that's my advice for the short term, keep her warm and make sure she
> >nurses a lot! Definitely call your vet to come out as early as possible
> >tomorrow morning. Also, if necessary, bottle feed her some whole milk
> >or even milk plus whipping cream. She needs the fat to keep her warm. A
> >bit of Karo syrup on the tongue can give her some emergency energy if
> >she's hypoglycemic. ValleyVet.com and many local feed stores will carry
> >products made specifically for giving extra energy after birth and
> >delivery (for dam and baby). They're made for sheep and goats, one is
> >called "Nutri-Drench" or something like that. Very good products if you
> >need them! Also Nursemate for kids or lambs are very good for newborn
> >crias.
> >
> >Best of luck and keep me/us posted!
> >Heather
> >
> >Heather Zeleny
> >West Wind Alpacas
> >Eugene, OR
> >
> >Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
> >Home of Avatar's West Wind Scirocco, El Bello's Padré, Pluro grandson
> >Sienna Illusion, and true black full Bolivian Cosby of Chelsea Farms!
> ><http://www.westwind>http://www.westwind alpacas.com/
> ><http://www.alpacana>http://www.alpacana tion.com/ westwind. asp
> ><http://tech.>http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/ AlpacaTalk/ join
> >
> > > We are new to alpacas with a newborn from last night. It was a rough
> > > delivery and I do not think she is right. Kristen Lowrimore,Perry
> Farm,
> > > Greer,SC
> > >
> >
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