Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Other alpaca discussion groups
Wow Sheri,
That seems a bit unfair and why would only big farms take this approach. Everyone in the breeding business wants to sell alpacas, no matter what their size. It seems a bit unfair to claim that only big farms deceive folks. Frankly I haven't found that to be true, although there has been one farm I know of like that, but I attribute that to the individual, not the size of the farm. I know of small breeders who cheat too. It ain't a size thing, it's an individual character thing.
Laurel
Tim & Laurel Shouvlin
Bluebird Hills Farm CSA & Alpacas
3617 Derr Rd. Springfield, Ohio 45503
www.bluebirdhills.
bluebirdhills@
937-390-6127 or 937-206-3936 (cell)
----- Original Message -----
From: Sheri Hewitt
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Other alpaca discussion groups
Let's face it squarely - most of the big farms
and their associates don't want anything in print
that would suggest that there might be the
slightest thing that isn't perfect in the alpaca
industry. They want more and more people to buy
their alpacas so continuing the myth of perfect
animals, never sick, easy to handle, etc. is what they want to do.
I choose not to even read their posts or join their groups.
Sheri Hewitt
At 07:43 AM 6/6/2007, you wrote:
>A few years ago Rick started moderating my posts, and I asked him why
>he didn't approve a particular post, he told me he didn't have time to
>"babysit" and review the posts from members he's put on "moderate."
>Huh? That's what "moderate" is for! BS. So I don't post there anymore.
>I joined under a different userid and snuck some in but I felt that was
>stupid. If the post didn't have my name attached to it, it was fine.
>Pfft.
>
>The problem is: If a moderator doesn't like you, forget it. On the
>other discussion group (not on yahoo) I told the moderator she was
>wrong in the way she dealt with Ken Madl after he posted the court
>records from the LoL suit. After that, she finds problems with every
>post of mine. Before this, she was my buddy. Now, she claims to have
>received numerous complaints from a wide variety of members when she
>never did before. I find that a bit odd. She claims that I violate just
>about every forum rule. Before I told her she was wrong, I never did.
>Also odd.
>
>The problem is the moderators. They think they are infallible and their
>opinions are the only correct ones. Here is an email from one of the
>moderators on that forum:
>"You are treading on VERY THIN ice here. The corrective actions of a
>moderator are not to be questioned, ridiculed, etc. in the open forum.
>If you have an issue with the actions taken by a moderator (which most
>are a collective from the three of us) you need to contact the
>administrator with your complaint. I have removed both your and
>Judith's edits. Take the comments to heart. The forum rules are clear
>and any further harassment of the moderators will most likely result in
>your membership suspension and/or removal."
>
>I have yet to see where I have harassed anyone, let alone a moderator.
>I disagree, and I think it's not inappropriate to be able to voice
>disagreement. That's what a forum is.
>American Heritage Dictionary
>2 A public meeting or presentation involving a discussion usually
>among experts and often including audience participation.
>
>On that other "forum" also, advertising is not allowed yet in Watt can
>advertise his service all day long, guilt us if we may send our samples
>to another lab, and then tell us his service is the only good one, and
>if you use another lan you're probably dishonest. Yet my family and I
>are not permitted to speak about our feed. I have an email requesting
>that I not discuss it further if someone starts a new thread on alpaca
>feed. Yet Ian can rant and rave about my sister and I personally, and
>"retaliate" against us, his words, and his posts are not edited for
>appropriate content, nor to remove advertising content. That is also
>odd, and not treating all forum members equally. I have a problem with
>that.
>
>Heather
>
>Heather Zeleny
>West Wind Alpacas
>Eugene, OR
>
>Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
>Home of Avatar's West Wind Scirocco, El Bello's Padré, Pluro grandson
>Sienna Illusion, and true black full Bolivian Cosby of Chelsea Farms!
><http://www.westwind
>http://www.alpacana
><http://tech.
>
>On Jun 6, 2007, at 4:03 AM, Shouvlins wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > In defense of the other group(s). Censorship occurs when folks
> > violate the rules. Alpacasite is a "minimal" politics site for there
> > is another to cover that. Some politics are allowed, but when it gets
> > personal or beaten to death the moderator asks folks to move the
> > discussion to the politics site.
>
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