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Sunday, November 27, 2005

Re: [Alpacasite] needing a sounding board of impartial people


> If your concern is others' perception that you were "in league" with the
> sellers by buying from them, I don't see that as anything I'd worry about.
> If you were acting as a broker for them to resell animals that aren't
> theirs, that would be different. Since you're simply taking advantage of
> their need to raise cash, and taking the time to ensure that your
> transaction is legal from the standpoint of the sellers' ability to convey
> good title, you haven't anything to be ashamed of.
>

Yes this is what I was worried about. I have checked to make sure about
registrations and from what I understand with everything that happened at
this farm things were wonderful until the husband became involved in the
business and then things got a bit dicey. They were the go to people around
here before everything happened. We have said we will pay some money down
and then the rest once we have all the papers in our name and everything is
finalized. They have agreed to that. Now they still were not that cheap but
given the quality they are a great price. Yes they do have a cria and she
owns the damns according to the registry. I just know that some of the
local farms have had a lot to say to people who visit them about this farm
and did not want them to say not to come to me because of where they came
from. Silly isn't it to be worried about something like this. I am not
worried about the health as I have been shown all health and vet records and
this person has been more then helpful and upfront with me. And to think
they are the ones that have the bad reputation.

Thanks for giving me your thoughts it is very helpful

Lori
www.heronview.4t.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Korff/Ladysong Farm" <judithkorff@yahoo.com>
To: <Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Alpacasite] needing a sounding board of impartial people

> Hi Lori -- There are a couple of ways to interpret your question, so let
> me ask you to clarify. Do you mean that other breeders or prospective
> buyers would consider your new animals "low quality" because you paid a
> low price for them? Or do you mean that other breeders or buyers would
> refuse to do business with you because you worked with the breeder with
> the bad reputation? Or are you concerned that a prospective buyer would
> hesitate because he/she would be unsure that the animals were legally
> yours since they came through an unreputable source?
>
> Certainly you should be checking ARI records to see who the alpacas are
> registered to. Always ask to see the ARI certificate of any animal you
> consider buying.
>
> If your concern is with the perception of low quality, what you pay/paid
> for your livestock is private information and a prospective buyer would
> likely not know it anyway. In any event, there are many excellent alpacas
> for sale at bargain prices because of personal circumstances of the
> owners; that does not lessen the quality of the animal in question. Every
> animal should be judged on its own qualities, not its price tag.
>
> If your concern is others' perception that you were "in league" with the
> sellers by buying from them, I don't see that as anything I'd worry about.
> If you were acting as a broker for them to resell animals that aren't
> theirs, that would be different. Since you're simply taking advantage of
> their need to raise cash, and taking the time to ensure that your
> transaction is legal from the standpoint of the sellers' ability to convey
> good title, you haven't anything to be ashamed of.
>
> The key to the issue, as I see it, is that you are fully informed of the
> sellers' ability to convey good title, and that you believe the prices are
> fair and reasonable and the alpacas are of the quality you want in your
> herd. The discussion we've been having has had to do with sellers
> responsibilities to prospective buyers. Unless you believe the sellers
> are enticing or luring you into a transaction that you would not otherwise
> contract, I see no reason not to buy the alpacas you're interested in.
> You're doing your homework as to legitimacy of the sale, so you should be
> fine.
>
>
> Judith Korff
> LadySong Farm
> 2473 Bunker Hill Rd.
> P.O. Box 33
> Steamburg, NY 14783
> (716) 354-6355
> A Holistic Management Farm
> Conducting a Symphony of Quality, Value and Customer Care
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