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Tuesday, August 28, 2012

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: alpaca down/can't rise - Goodbye Allie

 

Sorry Janice.....never easy to loose the battle. Tina in Missouri at Elkhorn Alpacas

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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 17:38:16 -0400
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Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: alpaca down/can't rise - Goodbye Allie

 

<<<it could be so many things, but first Ivormectin is a preventive NOT the
treatment for Meningeal worm. In fact it can do more harm than good once
the alpaca has contacted it. I'm going to post some links with really
good info on this and treatment if it should be Meningeal worm
http://www.bagendsuris.com/?page_id=269
PEM
http://www.bagendsuris.com/?page_id=735
West Nile research
http://www.alpacaresearchfoundation.org/papers_reports/ARFKutzler.pdf
West Nile can only be truly diagnosed with a blood test.
Treatment is very intensive with my alpacas which didn't make it (it was
during one of the first rounds of WN in Colorado). It included 24/7
IV's, intense antibiotics and anti-inflammatories bolstered with DMSO to
try and help the brain swelling. This was all based on what was done for
horses. Alpacas did not respond as well. Since you do not have a vet to
do this, you may try the holistic approach. I don't know anything about
it or if it really works. But it was posted as an option on one of my
chat sites and in this situation it might be worth a try.
http://www.holisticvetclinic.net/pages/west_nile_holistic_treatment

Hope this helps your time researching a bit.
Wishing you the best of luck,

Tawny Bott>>>


Thank you Tawny for your links.   I will file them away for future reference.   I tried doing research the past few days and the more I read the more confused it all became.    I have many other responsibilities.....(single mom with young children) that prevented me from fully devoting myself to researching thoroughly to develop a plan.   Trying to read on the fly just made everything a jumble;   everything possibility - PEM, m-worm, WNile, etc all list symptoms that were not what I was seeing; and gave contradictory advise anyway.

The last time I had a bout of m-worm the protocol, per Auburn U/Dr Pugh was massive doses of ivermec plus Safeguard and my alpaca pulled thru.   That was 10 yrs ago.
Research this time revealed exactly what you are saying - ivermec worthless as a treatment!

It is all moot at this point.   Sweet Allie P passed around 5 this morning.
And she seemed so much stronger yesterday.   It was a real shock.
A sad sad day.
Haven't had to bury an alpaca in 6 years.

Thank you all for your support and advice.
I am wracked with guilt at this point that I could have done more, should have known more, maybe did something wrong that pushed her over the edge.  Only 24 hrs in a day and many depending on me.    My mind has been in disarray (and exhaustion) the past several days trying to work this thru and figure out what to do.  I was just figuring out the Safeguard dosages late last night to start this morning.

She was my beloved first.   Came here as a bitty baby 12 yrs ago, an unwanted orphan, when my dd was not yet 2 herself.   I raised them together.  She's always been my favorite and the sweetest.   She had a good day yesterday, was up a lot, grazing, walking, being, we spent a lot of good time together these past few days, and she died among her friends in her favorite spot overlooking both pastures.  I guess ultimately that's the most any of us can hope for.

Janice

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