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Friday, January 13, 2012

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: AlpacaTalk on FaceBook

 

Thank you Heather.  You took
the words right out of my head
and said exactly what I was thinking.
 
Shirley Dillon
 
Alpacas of Gemini Farm
Basking Ridge, NJ  07920
 
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Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: AlpacaTalk on FaceBook

Obviously. I think everyone knows this. And in light of the fact that there are indeed so many other discussion groups out there, I see no reason that there should not be one that supports "no-kill". 


Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece






Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:24:12 -0800
Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] Re: AlpacaTalk on FaceBook

 

Heather:

While many of us are slow to address the need for a cull market, it is a real part of the alpaca industry now and a growing part going forward.  Many breeders and even pet owners are facing the challenge of what to do with their animals when they reach an age where the fiber they produce is coarse, short, and generally unmarketable.   Add to that, for those who are in the business instead of keeping alpacas as pets, the IRS requirement is that all farm operations are to exhibit a profit motive. It is difficult to explain to the auditor how keeping that 13-year old, 38 micron, 2-inch staple length gelded male is going to contribute to the farm's profit. 

The discussion of how to determine what animals need to be culled, how to cull, humane ways to deal with culls and the like are a very important part of talking about the livestock we raise.  For many, perhaps most of us, alpacas are not pets and we aren't a rescue; they are a business (but we do really enjoy and respect our alpacas).  If AlpacaTalk is just about raising pet alpacas, that's find.  Perhaps the name should be changed to AlpacaPets.  If it's for talking about the business of raising camelid livestock, then all pertinent topics should be equally welcome.

Alpacas are not now and never were a no-kill livestock.  There is no such thing as a no-kill livestock.  The horse industry tried that and all it did was move the slaughter to Mexico and resulted in thousands of animals getting freed on public lands.  I've been told they just reversed the no-kill rules for the US and horses will once again be able to be slaughtered here where they can be handled in a more humane manner. 

Don Stanwyck, Carnation, WA

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