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Thursday, January 12, 2012

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: AlpacaTalk on FaceBook

 

Heather,

I most certainly understand, and respect how you feel. However, in turn, I would think one would have to respect another's perspective.
We all have discussed in previous threads, the fact that this would be, could be a reality, and so it is with some folks. And because we are an alpaca site, we should be free to discuss what we feel is important to us as a community, no matter what the subject matter is ( my opinion ).

Some have been " lulled " into the fact that by having many alpacas equals big bucks...

Many have been faced with the problem the economy has laid out for us, by this I mean having to radically downsize or even provide food!

If faced with having to make such a drastic decision, I would prefer my animals be humanely euthanized as opposed to being "donated " to a crappy home ( already seen this done... ) Or given to an already over crowded rescue facility. And we all know what can happen there, if we all remember that horrible incident with the Llama rescue in Montana...

I'm not an advocate for slaughter, that's why we bought alpacas in the first place, however, I think we need to exercise a little fairness in the topic.

If you would prefer not to hear about it, I would recommend one to not read the post...

Dede Crout
Dragonfly Alpacas LLC
Marydel, MD

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From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 14:12:59 -0800
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Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: AlpacaTalk on FaceBook

 

Don,

I think that most of us know that some people are slaughtering and eating alpaca. I also think that most of us, especially those on this group, are against it. I don't want to see advice on how to kill an alpaca, or where to take it to be slaughtered or cut and packed. If someone wants to do that, they're on their own, in my opinion. Chances are, they're probably hunters and already know where to go. I absolutely do not want AlpacaTalk to encourage or support slaughter of alpacas. The easiest way to prevent the so called "need" for slaughter is to breed carefully and responsibly. Same with cats and dogs. If people would not allow cats and dogs to breed freely, there would not be the problem with high euthanization rates in the US.

As far as what to do with an alpaca that has died but not going to necropsy, I think maybe some people would like some advice. And I feel that information should be freely shared.
Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece






On Jan 12, 2012, at 2:01 PM, <don@fleecefields.com> <don@fleecefields.com> wrote:

 

Barb Nelson Kifer: Thanks for adding me,Heather.. I have so much to learn and share... Just lets not discuss meat and/or composting paca bodies?

Heather Zeleny Absolutely, I do not want to entertain those in support of alpaca slaughter.

 

I don't know how to read the exchange above (copy/pasted from the facebook page) except to say some topics will be banned.  Will you assure us all that ALL topics related to alpaca ownership and the industry will be welcomed on the AlpacaTalk facebook page?

 

Don Stanwyck, Carnation, WA

 

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Heather Zeleny
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:40 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: AlpacaTalk on FaceBook

 

 

Where do you see that members will be kicked out for discussing any topic? 

 

 

Heather

 

Heather Zeleny

White Lotus Alpacas

Oregon

 

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

 

 

 



 

On Jan 12, 2012, at 9:33 AM, <don@fleecefields.com> <don@fleecefields.com> wrote:



 

 

I went to the link but based on the first thing I saw there I'm concerned that the AlpacaTalk facebook group is going to kick out anyone who mentions alpaca slaughter.  This is a very important topic to our industry and not one that is going to go away.  While I'm not interested in dwelling on it I'd like to know up front whether people will be allowed to discuss it if the topic comes up on the facebook group.

 

Trading alpaca recipes might be a bit much for some people.

 

--don stanwyck, carnation, wa

 

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lysa Grant
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:54 AM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: AlpacaTalk on FaceBook

 

 

Try this link instead

 

 

Lysa Grant

Pocopaca in The Poconos

         Jim Thorpe, PA

     








 

 

 



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