Re: [AlpacaTalk] Bottle Feeding A New Cria
Wow. Best wishes to you, and to your agistor. Times are really incredibly tough right now.
I do have this clause in my contract. i really need to move forward with it. Nancy MillerCrooked Pine Hollow Alpacas76 Van LaneWinterville, Ga. 30683-----Original Message-----
From: Driwind Farms <alpacas@driwind.com>
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Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 3:04 pm
Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] Bottle Feeding A New CriaUltimately it might be good to have a brief friendly statement to the affect that "in lieu of unpaid funds totaling $___, the following animals (____________) have been relinquished by _____ to _____. Signed by both parties (plus addresses) and dated. When I raised Aussies I learned to CYA, 'cause you never knew when something was going to come back and bite you.CindaDriwind FarmsARI Registered AlpacasCinda and Gary YoungEl Paso, TexasPhone 915-276-1827www.driwind.com From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tina Travis
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 12:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Bottle Feeding A New CriaAre the people willing to give them up to you? If they are not willing it is much more involved.If they are willing just log on to ARI start the registry change. You do your part they do thier part online.All done!
Tina TravisElkhorn Alpacas31655 Elkhorn GlenWarrenton,MO.63383 636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930Alpacas are a rare treasure,one that I like to share!!!!From: Nancy Miller <cphalpacas@aol.com>
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Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 1:28:14 PM
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Does any one have a copy of this request? I need to get two surrendered for non payment and am not quite sure how to word it.Nancy MillerCrooked Pine Hollow Alpacas76 Van LaneWinterville, Ga. 30683-----Original Message-----
From: Tina Travis <traviselkhornalpaca s@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 11:04 pm
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Bottle Feeding A New CriaIt is customary to ask the owner to surrender the animal over to you by contract with transfer of ownership in situations like this.If they do not have the means to pay vet or extreme on farm care they have no right to claim your time,money for nothing.Most people are understanding of that and will conceed.Tina TravisElkhorn Alpacas31655 Elkhorn GlenWarrenton,MO. 63383636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930Alpacas are a rare treasure,one that I like to share!!!!From: "brandilynfarm@ aol.com" <brandilynfarm@ aol.com>
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Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 9:56:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Bottle Feeding A New Cria
If only that were possible! But my boarder no longer lives in the USA. She's moved back to her native country and is trying to disperse her herd. So she can only compensate me in one way. And I'm afraid that won't be easy for her either. We are suppose to have sunny warm weather here in my part of Michigan for the next few days with rain moving in on Tuesday or Wednesday. He will not be down at the barns then. Cria's and puppies both have trouble regulating their body temps for a few days - so that part comes easy for me! :o)Donna JaruzelBrandilyn Farm AlpacasHolly, MI810-714-6061248-933-6777-----Original Message-----
From: Tina Travis <traviselkhornalpaca s@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 10:40 pm
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Bottle Feeding A New CriaBusy Busy Lady!! Get the boarder out there to help with tomorrow!!! Yes you should get a birthing fee and intensive care fees.If it is cold and wet out I would not put the cria out during the day--takes to many calories to regulate body temp.Cria can have problems with regulating temp the first couple days even in normal births.
Tina TravisElkhorn Alpacas31655 Elkhorn GlenWarrenton,MO. 63383636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930Alpacas are a rare treasure,one that I like to share!!!!From: "brandilynfarm@ aol.com" <brandilynfarm@ aol.com>
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Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 9:31:57 PM
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I don't even want to think about it. I'm already exhausted and it's only been one night. My boarder is going to owe me big time for this! :o) We've got 30 alpacas to get shorn tomorrow on top of taking care of this cria. And I have three 11 week old puppies to take care of too out of a litter of 5, with all my adult dogs on top of that. I've already had to cancel plans that we had for today. I'm not complaining - it's just until it happens to you, you really have no idea how time consuming it is! And of course I'm already terribly attached to the little bugger!Donna JaruzelBrandilyn Farm AlpacasHolly, MI810-714-6061248-933-6777-----Original Message-----
From: Tina Travis <traviselkhornalpaca s@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 10:15 pm
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Bottle Feeding A New CriaDonna the only trouble with getting some sleep is that going too long at night without feeding can cause the blood sugar levels to drop and he would die.They just do not have any reserves.If he is taking 2-3oz's he needs to be fed every 2 hours round the clock.I know it is hard to do and exhausting.But the week will be over faster then you think.By the time he is a week old he should be able to go 3-4 hours depending on how much he takes but round the clock.3 weeks he can go 4 hours day then 5-6 hours at night.4 weeks 6 hours round the clock.Putting him out during the day is the best thing for him.Call me if you need anything.Tina TravisElkhorn Alpacas31655 Elkhorn GlenWarrenton,MO. 63383636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930Alpacas are a rare treasure,one that I like to share!!!!From: "brandilynfarm@ aol.com" <brandilynfarm@ aol.com>
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Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 8:52:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Bottle Feeding A New Cria
Thanks Tina for all the useful information! This little guy has taken 14 ounces so far today. I will feed him two more times tonight before I call it a night and get some sleep. I can definitely tell when he is hungry because his grip on the nipple is much different then when he isn't. He just drank 2 1/2 ounces very quickly with a very strong hold on the nipple. He's up here at the house for the night, but we do take him down to the barn during the day so he is with his mom and and the rest of the herd for the daylight hours.Thanks again for all the info!Donna JaruzelBrandilyn Farm AlpacasHolly, MI810-714-6061248-933-6777-----Original Message-----
From: Tina Travis <traviselkhornalpaca s@yahoo.com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 7:11 pm
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Bottle Feeding A New CriaThere are drugs that can be given to the female to make her stand.Dr.Anderson did this with a female that delivered c-section.It is Torbital.It is an opiate drug that just makes the mom feel happy and to not care what is going on.It only takes a couple days with this treatment.The problem you might run into is that the cria will not nurse because it has bonded to you and the nipple/bottle. I have a bottle cria right now.Premie could not stand for first 3 days---she had no idea that mom was the food source.She loves her bottle.I feed every 2 hours for the first week move to 4 hrs then to 6 hrs.If the cria does not have diarrhea I let them take as much as they want at each feeding.Once they spit the nipple out,I do not try to force feed the bottle.I just wait for the next feeding.If they have tummy troubles you will have to restrict feeding amounts.They have a formula based on weight that the Vet Schools use.Your vet or one of the good Universities should be able to help with that.My little girl is amost 4 weeks old she takes 12 ozs every 6 hours now.I have used alot of diffrent milk over the years and I have settled with a Lambs milk replacer because it has no copper.I have bottle raised goats and sheep for 20 years.In 11yrs I have only had 2 bottle baby Alpacas.My cria Reesi is in the house on bad weather days,with a diaper to keep down the mess.On nice weather days she is outside from sun up to sun down with the herd-coming in at night.Good luck!! TTina TravisElkhorn Alpacas31655 Elkhorn GlenWarrenton,MO. 63383636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930Alpacas are a rare treasure,one that I like to share!!!!From: Marcieks <marcieks@charter. net>
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Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 4:37:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Bottle Feeding A New Cria
you need to have someone hold her and let him nursehe will die without moms colostrums----- Original Message -----From: brandilynfarm@ aol.comSent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 4:53 PMSubject: [AlpacaTalk] Bottle Feeding A New CriaI'm being told so many different things I thought I'd ask all of you. I had a cria born yesterday afternoon. Mom is a maiden and I wasn't expecting a cria from her until late September. The cria appears to be full term. His birth weight was 12.6 lbs, teeth were just erupted, ears up, and he's up on his pasturns. Mom will not let him nurse. She really wants nothing to do with him. She will cluck at him and then walk away and go about her business. We're milking mom and getting everything we get from her down the baby and we are supplementing. My question is how much should I expect him to take in? I'm being told anywhere from 2 to 8 ounces at a time. On average I'm getting him to take about 2 ounces everytime we feed him, which is about every 90 minutes to 2 hours. He's latching on really well and then when he's done he sort of spits the nipple out. I'll try repeatedly to get him to take more, but he just mouths the nipple. I know he will increase his intake as he grows, but what is the average amount he should get in a serving or the total daily amount for right now?Thanks!Donna JaruzelBrandilyn Farm AlpacasHolly, MI810-714-6061248-933-6777
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