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Tuesday, March 16, 2010

[AlpacaTalk] RE: Pyr vaccinations

 

<<< AS I said, I don't have time to check now, but I bet there's a
vaccine that's a multi -type called DPLP.

Good luck!
Susan

PS -- The rabies is a must -- I don't give my house cats rabies
shots......they do not get out and have no contact with other animals.....
..the barn cats? $65.00 for 2 rabies shots, but worth it. God only knows
where they roam and what they come into contact with....as for the other
vaccines for the barn cats? Guiltily, I haven't had them vaccinated for
anything but rabies....and I really like them, but.....somehow farm cats
seem to disappear as I remember from my childhood............but I
should check it out for the safety of the dogs and alpacas...and yet I'm
sure I know of plenty of cats that don't even get rabies vaccine.........>>>

Yes, I am pretty sure DPLP is the standard dog vaccination. I just
looked at the package my guy's puppy shots were in and it doesn't say
DPLP, but Distemper, Lepto, Parvo, and Parainfluenze are in there plus
some other stuff, so that is most likely the DPLP. It's the same here
with the house GSD. When we lived in the city and went to the river
and parks a lot I kept up their shots, but out here they never go off
the property, rarely even out of my sight, and so I have stopped the
vaccines. I don't vaccinate my children, so am also very conservative
with my animals in that regard. But I think you have made a good point
about these guys living outside and being exposed to all sorts of
things. Thanks for bringing that up. My guys are nearly a year old
and will be coming due for their shots in a few months. I can buy those
at Tractor Supply very inexpensively. Cheap insurance. Tho after this
year I will likely go to every other year, just to limit their
exposure. There have been a lot of reports of tumors and such at the
old vaccination sites.

And they are indeed worth their weight in gold! I can't say enough
good about them. I *really* didn't want to go this route, and some
here may remember my year of walking the property several times every
night, trying to let the coyotes know their were humans about. Last
year we just had the worst coyote problem. They were closing in and I
spent my nights terrified for my alpacas. I moved them all to the front
pasture every night, closer to the house. Then I started hearing the
coyotes in the tiny strip of woods across from my one lane road. They
were following. The year before I had had 2 bobcat attacks, leaving
one of my girls blind in one eye and too close to having to be hauled
off to the Univeristy for very expensive surgery to remove the eyeball
had it become infected (goldenseal prevented that thank goodness) and
doing severe damage to one of my boys, slashing his neck in multiple
places to the bone. 2 different attacks. The first came the 2nd
night I left the ducks out overnight, thinking they were big enough and
safe. Clearly the bobcat had been watching and waiting; or simply got
lucky. It got a duck that night and slashed up my paca boy in the
process. Came back a few weeks later. It was a harrowing 2 yrs.
Not a worry since the Pyr brothers have been here. I never hear a
howl or yip. I had to put them to work much much younger than
recommended because the coyotes were getting so close. By 3 mos of age
they were staying out in the pastures all night with the alpacas. One
of my girls was terrified of them in the beginning and screamed a lot.
But I figured a coyote attack would be worse! The pups were very
respectful of her fear and eventually won her over. Now when she and
her yearling go pronking about, the pyr brothers join in. It is a sight
to behold They still can't be trusted with the fowl, so they have to go
back into the pen in the pasture during the day. But I am hoping and
assuming they will grow out of that and if the weather will ever get
decent I will start working with them and the birds. But yes they are
the greatest and most definitely worth their (rather substantial) weight
in gold. One night early on, one of them dug out of the pasture. It
was too late to fix the problem that night so they went back in their
pen for the night. The *very next* night we heard coyotes closing in at
dusk. So I know we are being watched. Whenever I can afford it I am
planning to put a pair out in the horse pasture as well.

The cats - same here; house cats get nothing; barn cats also get
nothing. I too feel guilty about it as I really adore those guys. But
reality is I simply cannot afford it. I do try to worm them when I can
but they are not very agreeable to that. But again, I think you are
right, and if I could get my hands on some rabies vaccine I would
vaccinate them myself; just cannot afford the vet fee to have it done.
But I think we may see rabies become more of a problem as the economy
continues to put people in difficult situations and things formerly
considered necessities will start to spill over into the "optional"
category.....such as rabies shots for pets. So many are having to make
hard choices these days, even having to give up their beloved pets.

Eating rabbits gave my dog the worst case of tapeworms I have EVER seen
in my life! Totally gross.
Heartworm and flea/tick preventative are two major expenses I have not
been willing to give up....yet. I have found really affordable
heartworm meds, and have found OTC tapeworm meds as well.....which took
some research last year. There is a company that comes to Tractor
Supply (here anyway) every month doing low cost vaccinations and
dispensing meds at substantially lower costs than vet offices. Once
you establish a "relationship" with them - by having your pet seen at
one of their clinics, you can order the meds over their web site.

Warmly, Janice

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