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Wednesday, June 10, 2009

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Hartman Alpaca Sale in Nebraska



I do believe Hartmans are AOBA members.  Good news is...they cancelled their June auction...not enough animals consigned.
After talking to the farmer who bought a couple of Elizabeth's alpacas, I was fairly confident that these animals are not being resold for meat.  He resells them at "exotic animal" auctions throughout the midwest and actually has a herd of over 30 alpacas himself.  He is a livestock farmer who has diversified into mini-donkeys, mini-horses and alpacas.  He considers them LIVESTOCK and treats them as such.  His comment to me was...."why would someone spend $100-500 for an alpaca and get 25lbs of meat when they can buy llamas for $10-50 and get 3x's the meat; the llama people are watching out to prevent that."
 
At one time, Hartman's Auction served a purpose for many alpaca owners who needed to downsize, cull or disperse their herd.  The past couple years, however, the alpacas have brought such poor prices that you would be better off to give them away as Heather stated.  Unfortunately, the Mike Schmidt "fiascal" has affected more than just that one auction he attended.  Hartman is a business man and as long as he can make $ having alpaca auctions, he will continue in the business.  He does not own alpacas, does not even particularly like them...he  sells the idea that you can make $ selling your animals at his auction.  Each auction does have 1 or 2 animals that may sell in the thousands of $'s but the majority of them will go for around $100.  Please do some research.  We alpaca breeders in the area would love to see Hartman's auction bring in the big breeders, not just to sell their culls but to actually BUY some of what we have locally.  But until I see that happen, I will not take my animals to his auctions and have no plans to attend again, even as an observer.   Robin B
 
Ace & Robin Buettenback
B4 Alpacas LLC
3742 S Locust
Grand Island Ne 68801


--- On Wed, 6/10/09, Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com> wrote:

From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Hartman Alpaca Sale in Nebraska
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 6:57 PM

I don't know for sure, but I think anyone can purchase AOBA email blasts. Those emails go out to all AOBA members.

Perhaps those with intimate knowledge of Hartman's ought to contact AOBA directly. I think AOBA bears some responsibility if they are sending emails on behalf of a company running a meat auction. This is not what we intend for our alpacas! 

Please don't send your alpacas there! Give them to loving homes before subjecting them to that fate!

Heather


On Jun 10, 2009, at 4:35 PM, shirley wrote:



Hi group,

I just received an advertisement from Hartman's for an Alpaca Sale on 
October 31 & November lst. They said I was receiving this email because my 
email address was subscribed to an AOBA member email list. How can this be 
possible? This advertisement looks like it is coming from an AOBA 
affiliate. No wonder so many farms fall for their pitch. I wonder how they 
got my email address.

Shirley Dillon

Alpacas of Gemini Farm
Basking Ridge, NJ 07920

www.alpacanation. com/geminifarm. asp
908-647-2995

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