alpacas: Re: [AlpacaTalk] CA

Laurel,

The owner of sire "Joe" did not say what those disastrous results were, even when asked specifically. So how can a recommendation to cull this and all downline be suggested? The implication that the problem was with his famous import ancestor, no details on how far back in Joe's pedigree this male was. So whatever the problem was, if genetic, may well have had nothing to do with famous import sire. See the problem here? It could have been any other alpaca in the pedigree, not famous import sire.

Again, the 3 CA cria from the same dam was well over a year ago. I highly doubt if tissue or blood samples are available.

Integrity is #1 on my farm. My integrity is literally all I have.

I have written to the owners of the sires of my boys and asked specifically about Meagan's allegations.

I'll keep everyone posted.

Heather

On Jun 26, 2009, at 4:32 AM, Bluebird Hills Farm wrote:

I agree Heather,

It is definitely not cut and dry on when to cull and when not to. However, in the case of a female that has thrown 3 CA crias, sadly, in my opinion, it is time to cull. Likewise, depending on what "disastrous" means, the sire, "Joe" should also probably be culled, especially if disastrous means CA crias. In my opinion this is not baseball where 3 strikes gets you out. I could possibly forgive one strike, but 2 strikes would absolutely get you out of my breeding program and put on the companion animal, non-breeder list and the certificate at transfer would reflect that. ( I would also be sending blood to Andy Merriwether).

For again, if I had a "Joe" or the dam that has had 3 CA cria, I would worry about selling the next healthy cria she had, or the next breeding to Joe, and not worry about some legal ramifications if something goes wrong. In the least, one's reputation as an honest and ethical breeder could come into question.

If we all have clauses in our breeding contracts that ask the question "Do you know of any congenital problems with your dam (or sire), its ancestors, or its cria", you have an opportunity to discuss these issues if they exist and come to a logical conclusion/agreement.

If the question is never asked, the discussion may never take place.

Rule number one here at Bluebird Hills is to never compromise our integrity / reputation or the integrity / reputation of our alpacas.

Laurel

The Shouvlins
Bluebird Hills Farm
Springfield, Ohio
937-206-3936
www.bluebirdhills.com
bluebirdhills@voyager.net

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