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Sunday, February 15, 2009

Re: [AlpacaTalk] RE: OB wire

Thanks, Heather! I'm getting braver by the day and will let you know how it
goes! One of my horses almost broke my nose the other day just getting him
out of his stall he'd been in for three days due to rain. I was on the
outside haltering him and he just threw his head, didn't really do anything wrong,
I just wasn't prepared and didn't have my arm up there like I should have.
Hopefully the alpacas will be easier, I don't always trust my "handler"
(David, spouse) who isn't very quick to follow instructions. : )

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

"I joined a health club last year, spent about $400.
Haven't lost a pound yet. Apparently, you have to go there."

In a message dated 2/14/2009 7:36:26 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com writes:

It is possible... my mom and I trimmed teeth on a yearling girl a
couple of weeks ago, they're the ones that didn't turn out perfect
and we didn't get the dremel smoothing done. But now, they look just
fine. I'll try to remember to take pics of them tomorrow. I've got
the before and after trimming ones already. And actually she and I
did trim one of our adult male's teeth a few months ago, that were
getting pretty long. That was just the two of us that time, too.

So yeah, if you're quick, two people can do it. :) And if the
"holder" is strong. With a new wire, though it's really only a 30
second job. And I still can't believe the non-diamond encrusted wire
works, but it really does, and in fact it works better than the
diamond wire. Which is good because the diamond wire isn't available
any more.

Heather

On Feb 14, 2009, at 6:32 PM, _LunarStruck@LunarSt_
(mailto:LunarStruck@aol.com) wrote:

> Its it possible to trim an alpaca's teeth (first time for me) with
> only two
> people or should I wait until I have a third available? (probably
> never)
>
> SUSAN OLSON
> Alpaca Loco
> Riverside, CA
>
> "I joined a health club last year, spent about $400.
> Haven't lost a pound yet. Apparently, you have to go there."
>
> In a message dated 2/14/2009 5:48:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> _alpacatalk@westwindalpacatalk@_ (mailto:alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com)
writes:
>
> Oh, right! I meant to answer that part again! Our wire is rather
> thin, about 1 to 1.5 mm in diameter. I have no idea how many strands
> it is, I still haven't looked, and it's in the barn. :) It comes on a
> very small flat spool, about 1/4" high by maybe 2.5" across, the 2.5"
> being the diameter of the spool.
>
> So, for trimming teeth, say you have an adult with all 6 incisors in.
> Maybe, like on some of ours, only the 1st and 2nd incisors are too
> long. The 3rd ones are usually ok. So we just start with the wire at
> the top of the 3rd set, and start sawing toward (myself), pulling the
> wire and sawing the 2nd incisors at an angle generally parallel to
> the gumline. When you get nearly through the teeth, they'll probably
> pop off and might hit you in the face. Not a bad idea to wear eye
> protection, especially if trimming fighting teeth! Anyway, you just
> proceed to the 1st incisors, pulling toward yourself, with strong
> pressure, as quickly as possible, because the alpaca will likely be
> trying to get away. They may not be perfect. If you have a dremel
> tool with a carbide drum type tip, and you have strong help to keep
> the alpaca restrained, you can then smooth off the teeth. Otherwise,
> don't worry too much, they'll smooth off on their own. In fact I have
> pics I'll post soon, before trim, after trim, and a couple weeks
> later with no dremel smoothing,
>
> Many people use a small rope dog chew toy to keep the mouth open a
> bit and the tongue pushed back out of the way of the wire. We also
> use the end of a roll of vetwrap, the sheath to a 6cc syringe...
> anything about 1/2" to 3/4" in diameter that isn't too hard.Even a
> piece of dowel would work ok.
>
> I'm gonna have to get video of trimming teeth with the wire sometime.
> It's really not hard, keeping the alpaca still is the hard part!
>
> I have no idea why Albon isn't listed as treatment for coccidia.
> Maybe someone else knows!
>
> Heather
>
> On Feb 14, 2009, at 5:31 PM, __houckj@aol._ho_ (mailto:_houckj@aol.com) _
> (mailto:_houckj@aol.com_ (mailto:houckj@aol.com) ) wrote:
>
> > <<<<OB wire: I purchase it from valleyvet.com It comes in a little
> > spool
> > of 11 yards for about $12, free freight.
> > >>>>
> >
> > Thanks Heather. Maybe my post didn't make it thru, I didn't see it,
> > but
> > for some reason the digest it should have been in didn't come to
> > me, so
> > don't know. Sorry if I am repeating myself, but what I was asking
> > about
> > was the appearance of the OB wire. I got some at my feed store. I
> > questioned it as it is so thick I don't see how it could go between
> > teeth to trim them down. It is 27 strand ss. He said it was the only
> > kind he had ever had and that people used it for cutting off horns.
> > Is that the same OB wire we are talking about here for trimming
> teeth?
> > And if so, how in the world do you get it between those loooong
> front
> > teeth or do you trim them both at the same time?
> >
> > Thanks! And thanks for the info about Albon. I was just wondered why
> > it is not listed as coccidia remedy or preventative.
> >
> > Warmly, Janice

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